Arcane Softcaps

[Sin]

I read up on it and just want to make sure I got this right:
Arcane caster (dragon communion seal) caps out at 45.
Arcane melee (occult or simillar) caps out at 60

Is this correct, or am I missunderstanding the wiki?

[nfinite.recursion]

If by melee you mean the purely physical damage scaling, then the final soft cap is at 80.

For status effect buildup on melee weapons it's (usually) 60.

[Sin]

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

If by melee you mean the purely physical damage scaling, then the final soft cap is at 80.

For status effect buildup on melee weapons it's (usually) 60.

Thank you.
So what I am gathering is:
Primarily caster => 45
Primarily status => 60
Maxed out physical => 80

.. that is one weird interaction.

Thanks again.

[Koros Antavo]

The "softcaps" in ER are tied to armaments and their scaling, not stats themselves. That is why blindly following the softcaps in this game specifically is misguided, and your concluisions from the comment above are not accurate.

Let's start with casting. Dragon Communion Seal scales with Arc and Fth and has its own scaling curve. The first cap would be 45 arc, but the next cap would be 45 fth. Then max out arc, then max out fth. So if you want to be a caster, you can keep pumping points past 45 arc, just not in arc but in fth, and you'll get adequate returns.

Melee also has its quirks. Arc has two infusions, Bleed and Occult, and they behave differently, both to each other and based on what weapon is infused, particularly whether or not it has innate status buildup before any infusions. If you want to properly understand how your weapons scale and what stat distribution to pick, find some build planners and infusion calculators. Experiment with the weapons and fine-tune the stat distribution to your liking.

[Sin]

Thanks to you too. What an annoying thing to build around without external tools. Took your advice and checked a build planer to see what kind of stat investment would give me the best bang for the buck regarding my chosen weapon and the casting side of things.

[bigbiggaboo]

Status build up on weapons falls off pretty hard after 45 but the damage should scale well past that on occult.

[Sin]

Originally posted by bigbiggaboo:

Status build up on weapons falls off pretty hard after 45 but the damage should scale well past that on occult.

My quick check via build planer with f = faith, arc = arcane, DCS = dragon communion seal, AR (Grave Scythe occult variant):

36 f , 60 arc = DCS 343, AR 568
36f , 45 arc =DCS 328, AR 528,
45, 45 = DCS 339 , AR 528

I am not convinced that 15 level ups are worth 40 AR, but if you got the levels free why not.
36 Faith is a place holder value because I can buff it up to 45 from there if I so chose. There are other gear choices which will give you a different value there ofcourse, so you might as well ignore it.