Invaders ruin the CO-OP experience?

[BiomageHun]

Nop, heres why, the boss mean to be solo killed, if you inv some1 to help you kill it, then its not balanced anymore, so invaders its like a guardian angel who just protect bosses to be kiled fast
:I good luck to judge this

[CB]

And why should I let someone have fun at my expenses?
I have nothing to gain but time to waste just for the sake of someone else's fun.
Would any of you actually do such a thing for any of us? Absolutely not.

that's the thing! invaders sign up for exactly that when they try to beat people 3v1. it's why i think you really need to try invading. you'll get over thinking the game is strictly about you, just like all those better-adjusted streamers have.

you are clearly bothered by invaders and you could actually have some fun in putting some of them down. maybe. but the mere *threat* of someone else having fun when you're not precludes you from even trying. again, that's a pretty big you problem.

can you explain why those streamers don't immediately start whining about netcode? how is it that they can lose to someone and not have it ruin their entire lives? what secret are they keeping from you?

Funny thing is that you're able only to mention winning and losing, yet none of my arguments has anything to do with it.

if you could win against invaders you wouldn't be doing this. sounds like you're really, really easy to bait into enemies. lol.

[Dragonirian]

Origineel geplaatst door BoD6-4:

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

here's an idea: instead of pouting and acting like someone is wasting your time, try playing along. it's not the game or invader's fault that the invader ended up in *your* world, specifically, so why act like such a victim? try to learn how to have fun even if someone else might have some at your expense. it'll help you shed the 'i'm taking my ball and going home' energy.

What a great idea to tell someone "try considering fun doing chasing simulator, hide'n seek and dealing with garbage netcode which makes pvp enviroment utter garbage". It sure is a great tip.

It's not like we have nfs hot pursuit for who wants to do chasing simulator, pvp games with decent netcode (even if they're old) for those who wanna pvp or dead by daylight for those who wanna do hide'n seek

That us quite literally the 80% of the experience the moment both phantoms die - it's a race the thr bonfire for a resummon.
And yes, it IS fun.

[Valfossa]

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

coping

you were out of material when you tried the reddit-tier 'i just can't say anything without being told to git gud!' quip. i'd say nice try but it wasn't. you've got similar talent at forum pvp as you do elden ring pvp, apparently.

Lad you are coping. Simply because you cannot accept that some if not many, don't want PVP forced on them.

I can accept the fact that you like PVP, and that I may even be in the minority for disliking it. And that many will not like me saying this.

So either accept that fact and agree to disagree, or continue to cope and look like just another fanboy that can't accept that other peoples opinions.

The choice is yours.

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Origineel geplaatst door TERRØR♕:

First of all , if an invader is running , just go on with your PVE gameplay till you reatch the boss like you are supposed to do, unless you are ganking, are you?

I'm not so stupid to fall into obvious traps. Even a braindead would understand that the invader is waiting between a large group of mobs.

Origineel geplaatst door TERRØR♕:

as 3 people you should be able to beat most invaders.

In fact we were. yet it was boring as hell, i.e. a waste of time

Origineel geplaatst door TERRØR♕:

If he is running , go to fog , if he is hiding go to fog , let me remind you that people getting invaded hide mutch more than invaders , and invader's objective is to kill the host so he has to search for them....on the other hand you dont have to search for anyone.

There's no fog in the open world (the only one I remember at sud) and some fogs are caused directly by the invader and you can't go through these.

Besides people want to explore calmly and at their pace, pace that is destinate to accelerate when someone invades

[CB]

coping

as i said, you're out of material. the best post you made was the one with the nerd emoji, but only because of the nerd emoji.

Besides people want to explore calmly and at their pace

with a friend by their side. lol dude. just bring a picnic basket and a blanket while you're at it. elden ring was never meant to be a nice day sim.

i'm in like 'get a load of this guy' mode now. i bet they want to pick flowers while they're at it. there never should've been a crafting system.

[Dragonirian]

Origineel geplaatst door Chrisader:

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

you were out of material when you tried the reddit-tier 'i just can't say anything without being told to git gud!' quip. i'd say nice try but it wasn't. you've got similar talent at forum pvp as you do elden ring pvp, apparently.

Lad you are coping. Simply because you cannot accept that some if not many, don't want PVP forced on them.

The thing is you already have solutions to your problem, and those are much more friendly to your desires than ever before in the series: either play solo or play another game that is pure coop.
No, changing the game and removing the genre defining gameplay to fit you is not something that is going to happen - is that hard to understand?

[echo_ML]

Origineel geplaatst door Dragonirian:

No, changing the game and removing the genre defining gameplay to fit you is not something that is going to happen - is that hard to understand?

Um, no, Nightreign. Literally Fromsoft's f#ck you to PvP'ers to appeal to mass market.

[𝑀𝓊𝑔𝑒𝓃]

If night reign is successful in it's experiment of a co op experience without invasions than it might spell trouble for dedicated invaders for future games

The invasion mechanic was always there for balance and if FROM finds other methods for it which i think Night Reign is trying to do than RIP invasions , it will be interesting to see if that happens though cause many claims will be put to the test like invasions keeping these games alive which i do think they do especially in the later half of the game's life cycle

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Origineel geplaatst door CB:

it's why i think you really need to try invading

X: "PvP with garbage netcode always sucks, no exception"
CB: "I think you should try invading in Elden Ring, a game which netcode sucks."

Sounds logical, doesn't it? *Sarcasm*

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

you are clearly bothered by invaders and you could actually have some fun in putting some of them down.

X: "PvP with garbage netcode always sucks, no exception. If it's garbage it's boring."
CB: "You could have fun having pvp battles in a pvp enviroment featuring garbage netcode. You should give it a try, it sounds like a logical and clever idea"

What will next be? You'll recommend a live service game to someone that hates daily quests and battle passes?

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

maybe. but the mere *threat* of someone else having fun when you're not precludes you from even trying. again, that's a pretty big you problem.

I don't care about someone else having fun but I care about me having fun. I play for myself and for my relax, nothing else.

Invasions have already proved themselves to be boring crap through the s*t netcode and the invaders behaving annoyingly.

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

can you explain why those streamers don't immediately start whining about netcode?

What makes you think that I could care any less about streamers that begin calling Nightreign a bad game just because it doesn't have pvp?

I don't watch streams in the first place after all. After all I do own games, why would I watch someone else playing a game I like when I could play it myself?

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

how is it that they can lose to someone and not have it ruin their entire lives? what secret are they keeping from you?

They ain't keeping any secret, but someone sure is keeping a secret from you. I'm gonna reveal it to you: a boring win is as worthless as a boring loss and holds way less value than a fun loss.

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

if you could win against invaders you wouldn't be doing this. sounds like you're really, really easy to bait into enemies. lol.

Oohhh.... here what was next then...

X: "I ain't giving them any advantage by fighting them togheter with the mobs."
CB: "Oh, so you get lured into enemies"

Wow, the brilliancy ladies and gentlemen. Let's bow down to his immense logic skills *sarcasm*

[Valfossa]

Origineel geplaatst door Dragonirian:

Origineel geplaatst door Chrisader:

Lad you are coping. Simply because you cannot accept that some if not many, don't want PVP forced on them.

The thing is you already have solutions to your problem, and those are much more friendly to your desires than ever before in the series: either play solo or play another game that is pure coop.
No, changing the game and removing the genre defining gameplay to fit you is not something that is going to happen - is that hard to understand?

It isn't the "genre defining" gameplay though a vast majority of Soulslikes don't have invasions, and even Fromsoftware themselves have Soulslike that have none such as old Kings Field games, Shadow Tower 1 and 2, and more recently with Sekuro.

So no it does not define them at all. And the new Elden Ring may not even have them either at least from what was shown, so maybe it is going to happen.

And even then I don't expect From to fit it around me, because I can just play the game offline which is what I do. So try and except that alright?

[Dragonirian]

Origineel geplaatst door echo_ML:

Origineel geplaatst door Dragonirian:

No, changing the game and removing the genre defining gameplay to fit you is not something that is going to happen - is that hard to understand?

Um, no, Nightreign. Literally Fromsoft's f#ck you to PvP'ers to appeal to mass market.

It's a side team training project.
I have no problem with that. Besides, I'm getting a perfect counter to the invasion complainers - I will ALWAYS be able to tell them to go back to Nightreign, whether in Elden ring or the next main team game that I am certain will have invasions again.

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Origineel geplaatst door Dragonirian:

I am certain will have invasions again.

Dude, lower your expectations.

You were certain that From Soft hates seamless and that those who use to play with the mod would have been cutted out from playing after the dlc release (instead the mod was ready before the dlc's release).

[echo_ML]

Origineel geplaatst door Dragonirian:

I'm getting a perfect counter to the invasion complainers - I will ALWAYS be able to tell them to go back to Nightreign,

That's true, lol.

Still, I'm not confident the next main game will have invasions, since Elden Ring had such a wet fart of a multiplayer system.

[Dragonirian]

Origineel geplaatst door BoD6-4:

Origineel geplaatst door Dragonirian:

I am certain will have invasions again.

Dude, lower your expectations.

You were certain that From Soft hates seamless and that those who use to play with the mod would have been cutted out from playing after the dlc release (instead the mod was ready before the dlc's release).

We had this exact discussion before release of Elden ring.
The argument back then was "from went mainstream with multiplatform ds3, they will remove invasions to appeal to more people".
Funny how that turned out, you're upset to this day

[Valfossa]

Origineel geplaatst door CB:

as i said, you're out of material. the best post you made was the one with the nerd emoji, but only because of the nerd emoji.

Please get it right, I started with the nerd emoji because you tried to correct me with the use of mechanic, which wasn't even wrong. Hence low effort meme.

And the material is on point because you are a coping fanboy that can't handle the fact that some think differently from you.

So please continue to prove me right by posting more cope, while I leave because I can no longer care to respond to you. Okay? Bye lad.