I'm PVPing! and it was fun. WTF

[Mollymawk]

I am shocked. I normally hate PVP. I decided to give it a try at last and it was quite enjoyable.

Everyone was polite, waves and little bows, then we have at it. I lost a few but also won a few, far more than I expected.

My question: Is this a game that finally got it right or am I still just a care-bear in a game that PVP purists loath.

[Rena Ichigawa]

Depends who you ask. Duelists? Plenty to like about it. Invaders? Youre at the biggest disadvantage of any fromsoft game to date. Still all around fun though, especially when you get proper fights.

[APTEMOH4UK]

I find pvp in this game quite entertaining. In spite of all problems with balance.
And highly recommend trying seamless coop mod since the connection between players there is much-much better.

Coliseum is a good start for entering pvp, but some time later you will find out that arenas in ER suck. Just big empty round surface. The only advantage - people are mostly polite. Mostly.
And after that you will seek for new things and try invasion. This is what keeps personally me here, because every invasion isn't like any previous one. Yes, you must know, that:
1) an invader is at disadvantage (in SC mod this disadvantage is less)
2) people mostly act like crazy chimps (but you can find polite hosts or fight clubs).
However I do recommend to try invasions. The game would open from completely other side.

[Krasniy Metall]

I've literally resorted to using a vpn to Kazakhstan because I got sick of this P2P working in favor of people with worse connections, but after like 2 matches I decided PvP's not worth it if I have to go this far to have a "fair match"

For most people their latency's not their fault but I'm sick of every match turning into R1 spams with the person taking longer to receive the stagger (like, literal 2 seconds after being hit) winning

[DayLight1943]

i dont know why you'd be a care bear, but ER is a game that pvp purists loathe. do you mean that you disliked pvp in video games in general, or do you mean that you tried pvp in previous souls games and didnt like it?

ER is probably a bit more friendly to beginners because of all the powerful tools you have that dont rely on "getting good" at combat fundamentals, while a game like ds3 generally demands that you be a more skilled player than your opponent to get wins, outside of a handful of unbalanced matchups and cheese strats.

if you stick with the pvp for awhile and get lots of practice in, you might find that a point will come when you could go back to ds3 pvp and get a lot more out of it than you did in the past.

[Nxce]

It's fun until you get absolute demolished by someone using a youtube Chase build or ganked by multiple players.

[Mollymawk]

引用自 DayLight1943：

i dont know why you'd be a care bear, but ER is a game that pvp purists loathe. do you mean that you disliked pvp in video games in general, or do you mean that you tried pvp in previous souls games and didnt like it?

ER is probably a bit more friendly to beginners because of all the powerful tools you have that dont rely on "getting good" at combat fundamentals, while a game like ds3 generally demands that you be a more skilled player than your opponent to get wins, outside of a handful of unbalanced matchups and cheese strats.

if you stick with the pvp for awhile and get lots of practice in, you might find that a point will come when you could go back to ds3 pvp and get a lot more out of it than you did in the past.

Years ago, I used to play a lot of Eve Online. I enjoyed the Pvp there but I used the players as a hazard to navigate rather than going out actively hunting victims. The more aggressive player base often referred to plays like myself as "care bears" as they perceive us as risk averse.

My only other pvp experiences is with MMO's like WOW, GW2, SWTOR, starTrek online etc..
MMO pvp never felt very rewarding or fun. Co-op raids were more my thing.

I've been doing some more PVP today. it was a little less fun but only by a little. More groups with access to gear I have not unlocked yet. I was well outclassed.

[Krasniy Metall]

引用自 csand：

引用自 Krasniy Metall：

I've literally resorted to using a vpn to Kazakhstan because I got sick of this P2P working in favor of people with worse connections, but after like 2 matches I decided PvP's not worth it if I have to go this far to have a "fair match"

For most people their latency's not their fault but I'm sick of every match turning into R1 spams with the person taking longer to receive the stagger (like, literal 2 seconds after being hit) winning

With a lower player count these days the matchmaking isn't great, but using a VPN will make P2P connections worse. In fact the worst latency offenders in game are typically using a vpn 🤷‍♂️

Well, when people just happen to have high latency it's not really that fault, I guess.

After trying it out for myself, I did figure out what it's like to play with high latency on my side... and it did give me an obvious advantage, but it's just not fun. I apologize to anyone I frustrated with my VPN experiment, but if there's anyone playing with VPN to take advantage of latency, they're not playing the game, they're just trying to see that "victory" screen

[Faust Wither]

it was fun for me too until i get lagged or opponent lagged.