Sorcery seems boring.

[PuttBlug]

I started a mage game and got pretty powerful with the right gear and spells, including the comet azur and no fp tear one but I have to say, it seems pretty boring compared to melee builds whether it's strength or strength/faith hybrids.

Even without using "OP" and very situational spells like comet azur, sorcery seems pretty lackluster. For those of you who like going for mage builds, why do you find sorcery interesting?

[PuttBlug]

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Escrito originalmente por Alive by Moonlight:

IFor those of you who like going for mage builds, why do you find sorcery interesting?

We don't search guides for the most op build. DUH!

I use comet azur maybe 5% of the time. Other than that the carian slicer and the glintstone pebble were my main spells up until I could complete my comet azur build. Even the non "OP" (but extremely situational comet azur) spells don't seem particularly interesting to me, so what makes them interesting to you?

I feel like once you get enough fp and upgrade your staff of choice there's little challenge compared to an upclose melee build.

[PuttBlug]

Escrito originalmente por Serulean:

Comet Azur and No FP tear flask was nerfed in the last patch. It only lasts 5 seconds and is pretty much unusable now. Don't listen to this troll op.

You mean today's patch? Because I started my mage run a couple days ago and I could use the no fp + magical dmg tears with comet azur just fine on slow moving bosses. Not sure why you think I'd be trolling for asking what makes sorcery interesting to others.

[Einstine]

Same thing happened in Cyberpunk. People look anything and everything up, go get it, and then complain it's boring because it's too easy.

[jasonbarron]

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If you do the thing were you only raise INT and stand 5 miles away from enemies, sure, that's boring. You forced yourself into a very particular playstyle, refuse to change things up and blame the sorceries for your own actions.

It's up to you to slot stuff like Carian Slicer or Greatsword and have fun with the tools you have.
Like, STR builds who only do jumping attacks with Greatsword are boring, too.

Yeah, totally agree. A mage can easily "mix things up" by using close up melee spells of which there are many that absolutely devastating. If someone thinks a mage is boring it's because they chose to play exclusively ranged.

[Yagger]

Escrito originalmente por Serulean:

Comet Azur and No FP tear flask was nerfed in the last patch. It only lasts 5 seconds and is pretty much unusable now. Don't listen to this troll op.

ah yes, ops a troll because they used comet azure before the nerf without using it again, forehead

[vamirez]

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We don't search guides for the most op build. DUH!

I use comet azur maybe 5% of the time. Other than that the carian slicer and the glintstone pebble were my main spells up until I could complete my comet azur build. Even the non "OP" (but extremely situational comet azur) spells don't seem particularly interesting to me, so what makes them interesting to you?

I feel like once you get enough fp and upgrade your staff of choice there's little challenge compared to an upclose melee build.

Friend, there is a f***ton of spells that have their use in different situations to be found throughout the game. Do you want us to list them all now? If you just go thru throwing pebbles and are not really interested in the variety, then the real issues here seem to be that magic spells don't do it for you, and that the pebble is still viable late in the game. Even tho some would prefer ice pebbles or semi-invisible pebbles I guess. And that you want to beat up mobs with a piece of iron close up and personally. Then - do that :)

My endgame roster included the ice pebble, moonblade, the cannon (ae fireball), terra magica, Ranni's moon, Loretta's bow (super for sniping when clearing a zone) and also the Azur comet. I've seen folks here using mostly different stuff, too.

[jasonbarron]

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Yeah, totally agree. A mage can easily "mix things up" by using close up melee spells of which there are many that absolutely devastating. If someone thinks a mage is boring it's because they chose to play exclusively ranged.

It doesn't help that the 3 primary glintstone spells are viable to play almost all of the game. I don't understand why they allow early game spells to remain viable into late game. They should be dead by Leyndell. The functional progression makes early game spells too useful & later game spells too useless right up to end game.

That's kind of like melee weapons, though, isn't it? I used the Bloodhound Fang for almost the entire game on my first run. All the other weapons, and spells, just represent variety to me, not necessarily a "better" option.

[PuttBlug]

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If you do the thing were you only raise INT and stand 5 miles away from enemies, sure, that's boring. You forced yourself into a very particular playstyle, refuse to change things up and blame the sorceries for your own actions.

It's up to you to slot stuff like Carian Slicer or Greatsword and have fun with the tools you have.
Like, STR builds who only do jumping attacks with Greatsword are boring, too.

That's exactly what I did, mainly intelligence (to 60) and then vigor to 40 and endurance to 25. Other than that I put a couple points into strength for the Lusat scepter requirements.

I tried most spells, including the carian slicer and greatsword ones, but those seem like melee builds with extra steps and fp requirements to me, so yeah for a mage run I chose to mainly use spells that don't require me to get close to an enemy and I found the playstyle lacking compared to strength/faith hybrid builds.

[impuretrash2878]

I dunno how it can be boring when it enables you to do so many things that just arent possible with a pure melee build.

[jasonbarron]

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I use comet azur maybe 5% of the time. Other than that the carian slicer and the glintstone pebble were my main spells up until I could complete my comet azur build. Even the non "OP" (but extremely situational comet azur) spells don't seem particularly interesting to me, so what makes them interesting to you?

I feel like once you get enough fp and upgrade your staff of choice there's little challenge compared to an upclose melee build.

Friend, there is a f***ton of spells that have their use in different situations to be found throughout the game. Do you want us to list them all now? If you just go thru throwing pebbles and are not really interested in the variety, then the real issues here seem to be that magic spells don't do it for you, and that the pebble is still viable late in the game. Even tho some would prefer ice pebbles or semi-invisible pebbles I guess. And that you want to beat up mobs with a piece of iron close up and personally. Then - do that :)

My endgame roster included the ice pebble, moonblade, the cannon (ae fireball), terra magica, Ranni's moon, Loretta's bow (super for sniping when clearing a zone) and also the Azur comet. I've seen folks here using mostly different stuff, too.

Speaking of the Moonblade, which is my favorite melee spell, how is it post patch? Did they nerf it or are the changes a net positive?

[PuttBlug]

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I dunno how it can be boring when it enables you to do so many things that just arent possible with a pure melee build.

Idk, just casting various damage spells from afar makes it safer than a melee build.

[jasonbarron]

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I dunno how it can be boring when it enables you to do so many things that just arent possible with a pure melee build.

Idk, just casting various damage spells from afar makes it safer than a melee build.

I think everyone here agrees: if you're simply casting nothing but range spells and nuking bosses with Comet Azure, then yes, it's boring. Until you suddenly find yourself frantically juggling flasks in certain situations, then it gets not boring fast

[Shiggieb00]

Dragon spells are fun.. I made a mage, beat the whole game through... Literally the best spell in the game is glintstone pebble... the best spell in the game. Highest damage, lowest FP, fastest casting.

[ColonelBaker]

Sounds like you watched too many "OP Mage build" videos on Youtube and don't like the playstyle. Use different spells in combination with a melee weapon. If you're finding Comet Azure boring use a different spell. There's a lot to play with.

[PuttBlug]

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Idk, just casting various damage spells from afar makes it safer than a melee build.

I think everyone here agrees: if you're simply casting nothing but range spells and nuking bosses with Comet Azure, then yes, it's boring. Until you suddenly find yourself frantically juggling flasks in certain situations, then it gets not boring fast

I also used carian slicer a lot and yes it can be ok for a bit but then I thought to myself, why all the extra steps and fp cost when I can just use a bloodhound's fang upgraded to 10 and do much more dmg with less level investment?