They ruined the Greatshield Talisman

[Broso]

Let's be real here. The only reason for using up an entire talisman slot for that talisman was to be able to enable ultimate tank mode with Fingerprint Stone Shield. The difference between having it on and not having it on now is ridiculously small, negligible even, may just as well not use a shield anymore.

I don't know if they did this for PvP, but if so, then PvE got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by this unreasonably hard. Why even have shields if they don't shield you? Just leave them out of the game next time, FFS.


Edit (to answer certain replies):

It was not needed in PvE at all. You still had to have high enough stats to even carry it since it is very heavy and you had to use one talisman slot.

Maybe having 100% guard boost was too much but now it barely does anything in addition to what the shield does anyway and I tested it against some enemies I use for benchmarking purposes and you take too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ much stamina damage, this is ridiculous. Why should I even use such a heavy shield now? It's nonsense.

They did ♥♥♥♥ about Bloodhound's Step but they ruin this? Why?

There are also plenty attacks that come from overhead, for example the drop attack the big hands do, that a shield even at 100% guard boost will not just magically block for you. And shields also do ♥♥♥♥ against grab attacks so no, it was not god mode it was not easy mode it was just an alternate playstyle which is a lot less viable now.

[Sparhawk 59]

yep mentality of the devs nerf and buff stuff but dont fix the real issues

[kameltoes]

Yeah seems they nerfed it too much

[Sparhawk 59]

flies ffs nerfed hoarfrost nerfed the devs need nerfing

[Farkus]

You're still going have incredible blocking potential on large shields and smaller shields seem to be unaffected. As for the 100 stability fingerprint stone shield, this was needed. It was absolute cancer in PVP and basically played the game for you in PVE.

[Slap]

I'm sorry the revelation that you will actually have to play the game now is a bit much for you. Rolling has always been the better option anyway, and actually should be always.

[Broso]

It was not needed in PvE at all. You still had to have high enough stats to even carry it since it is very heavy and you had to use one talisman slot.

Maybe having 100% guard boost was too much but now it barely does anything in addition to what the shield does anyway and I tested it against some enemies I use for benchmarking purposes and you take too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ much stamina damage, this is ridiculous. Why should I even use such a heavy shield now? It's nonsense.

They did ♥♥♥♥ about Bloodhound's Step but they ruin this? Why?

There are also plenty attacks that come from overhead, for example the drop attack the big hands do, that a shield even at 100% guard boost will not just magically block for you. And shields also do ♥♥♥♥ against grab attacks so no, it was not god mode it was not easy mode it was just an alternate playstyle which is a lot less viable now.

[Tobr]

Publicado originalmente por Scoobydoo wr r u:

Just checked.

It says: "Decreased the effect of Greatshield Talisman for weapons with high block rate".

Does this even affect the Fingerprint shield (or any shields)?

pretty sure the shields count as "weapons" since the patch notes are vague and translated from Japanese.

The nerf supposedly only effect great shields with above a certain amount of guard boost, since those great shields were already powerful enough as is, and the fingerprint shield had 100% guard boost so you could block infinitely which was broken.

[YosemiteBear]

fu nwas detected by journalist and we all know how loud these cringelords are

[Nerevar]

they had to nerf either : the high stat requirement high weight fingerprint shield OR this charm. they went for the later and left the shield alone so peoples stat investment isnt made useless by the change but also infinite guard was stupid face it.

suprsied metahound step wasnt touched yet. oh well. next patch then. cannot get everything fixed at once i guess.

[Boon: Bong Rip]

Nah it needed an adjustment, since the way you're meant to actually get 100% block rate is through spells. You'll see the same builds showing up soon enough unfortunately, just requires a stat adjustment

[Donte]

how can I check how much they nerfed % boost?

[gungadin22000]

Well, I for one sure am happy I beat all bosses in the game as a Fingerprint shield turtle before this nerf.

[Boon: Bong Rip]

Publicado originalmente por Scoobydoo wr r u:

Publicado originalmente por Boon: Bong Rip:

Nah it needed an adjustment, since the way you're meant to actually get 100% block rate is through spells. You'll see the same builds showing up soon enough unfortunately, just requires a stat adjustment

There was no 100% block rate. Hits drained stamina & resulted in regular damage once it ran out.

Does nobody actually understand how shields work?

The entire point of fingerprint + the talisman was 100% block rate and no stam drain unless the attack drained all your stamina at once. If anything that just shows you weren't using it correctly lmao

[Farkus]

Publicado originalmente por Scoobydoo wr r u:

Publicado originalmente por Boon: Bong Rip:

Nah it needed an adjustment, since the way you're meant to actually get 100% block rate is through spells. You'll see the same builds showing up soon enough unfortunately, just requires a stat adjustment

There was no 100% block rate. Hits drained stamina & resulted in regular damage once it ran out.

Does nobody actually understand how shields work?

No, a +25 fingerprint stone shield with the greatshield talisman absolutely blocked 100% of stamina loss. Source: I tested it myself.

[Einstine]

Publicado originalmente por Broso:

Why should I even use such a heavy shield now? It's nonsense.

LOL, this statement is nonsense.