Is Elden ring easier than DS series ?

[< AnimaL LoveR >]

Opinions from someone, who has already gone through the whole game and DS as well. I beat DS1 and now playing DS3, but I don't think I'm a pro in Souls-like games, just average player with lot of "You died" screens. Maybe I'm old, but DS3 is quite challenging, maybe more than DS1 when i played it 10 years ago. And I want to ask whether the elden ring is at least a little easier and forgivable. Many thanks for any answer.

[Osaka from Azumanga Daioh]

Depends. If you play ER like it's DS3 (no jump attacks, no bleed, no spirit summons, one weapon) then it will be much harder. If you use all tools then you can break difficulty very easily in a way you can't in ds3

[Time Stamp]

This is going to be hard to explain, but I'll at least try to do so.

No, not really, I went back and played DS1, 2, 3, Bloodborne and Demon's Souls (RCPS3)
Elden Ring is actually harder, it starts out pretty soft though and gives you much more room to go do something else compared to the older games. (for obvious reasons)

I think it has a lot to do with the AI being better in Elden Ring, not in a smart way... (no no they will still get stuck or jump of ledges), but the enemies react much faster to the nonsense you are trying to pull around them. you can sort of circle around almost anyone and anything in the older games, in DS1 the AI right out dies sometimes and the enemy just stands still. enemies in Elden Ring also feel more fluid and aggressive in the way they interact with you. I think some of you don't notice or appreciate this since you've been playing these games for decades now, but there really is a difference. you should go back and try the older games again.

anyway, there is a lot more to go in too, but the game deffo has some pretty hard areas unless you are just fishing up "the best build" YT videos just too steamroll everything.
most of those cheese build are intended btw.

I can say that Bloodborn was damn hard compared to any of the other Souls games and Elden Ring, but that might just be because the game is capped at 30fps I dunno, couldn't play it for too long periods of times.

I've been having a blast playing the older games again though. with the resent problems with the servers it gave me the chance to play the games in SUW resolution without worrying about getting banned hahaha.

[Sonnenbank(Raphael am zocken)]

Publicado originalmente por J0ust:

ITT: people acting like you couldn't cheese the Dark Souls games and break their difficulty over your knee.

I am pretty sure you could not do it like it was in ER.
where a +10 mimic tear + bleed makes even the "hardest" fights like Malenia into a complete joke
Or where you can get a +9 somber weapon without fighting the first hour of the game
and then face Margit and Godrick and kill them in 2 hits >-<

I dont really know any methods to cheese in DS3 f.e
DSA or Cinder

And even with bosses like Dancer where you could consider positioning behind her legs kinda "cheese" you still have to learn all the moves.

[Matsu]

Yes its very much easier. With or without summons.

DS3 remains hardest still. If you can beat DS3, theres no problems beating this game.

[Vheissu]

DS1 is much easier if you have played Elden Ring. Enemies have fewer and slower attacks.

[Lina]

if this game is considered harder that ds3 i would hate to see how much of a cake walk ds3 is.

[KourageHD]

I've only played Ds3 and Elden Ring. Personally DS3 is easier bosses but harder environment and enemies. Elden Ring has harder bosses but easier environments. Just my take.

[Freak4Leeks]

it definitely can be... but it also can be not.

subjective though.

[Last Place]

Way easier then the previous games, yeah

[Aria Athena]

I found it to be much easier. Also it's certainly waaaay more forgivable. Respawn points are almost always next to bosses, areas in general are much easier to clear or just traverse through, the world is so open that it could take you like 100hrs until you come across a boss that you have to kill if you want to continue exploring. At some point you even get a very reliable way of not losing your souls.

[Alphard]

Yes much easier. Aside from easy mode (summons, both ashes and other players), the main issue i got with ER as a completionist, is that by exploring most of the map while i'm doing the main dungeon, i reach last boss overleveled. I really want a mod that cut down runes gained by like 20-30%

[Mirona]

depends how you look at it. when taking your time and using the tools provided elden ring can be extremly easy as you can make use of some mechanics that nearly play the game for you and also the first half of the game can be made extremly easy by overlvling and getting weapon upgrades as early as possible. but you can make the game a fair challenge i would say is much harder than dark souls 1 and 2 if you dont use stuff like summons/spirits and "broken" stuff.. compareable to dark souls 3 mostly. dark souls 1 and 2 are very basic when it comes to mechanics and with the right knowledge extremly easy. and they also have cheeses but its harder to overlvl or break the game without seeking guides. elden ring has more handholding than dark souls 1 but dark souls 1 is very basic and most bosses are a joke.

in the end the first fromsoftware game anyone plays is a challenge as you have to learn stuff. and depending on your learning curve you have a good or frustrating experience. once you learned a few thing and still improve these games are not much of a challenge in terms of reaction time based skill. any mario game is harder in that regard

so yes its propably easier but for the wrong reasons. what i mean with that is that after playing dark soul 1 its more likely you learned the game mechanics and not bruteforced it ( no guarantee though). and after elden ring some players are still extremly bad as they managed to beat the game without learning it.

this propably stems from the loud desires of many to include an "easy mode" but they mostly made it optional to not piss off the core audience that made the game what it is now.

and for the most part people that just blurt out that elden ring is easy are extremly experienced veterans or people that dont really play the game while playing the game

beat the game without overleveling, without a guide for order, without any guide at all, without some of the arguably broken stuff like some weapon arts/spells summons/spirits. without that stuff the game will challenge you much more than dark souls 1and 2. and anyone can play it however they want but to be honest to actually "master" the game and learn patterns and mechanics you kinda have to play it like that. but i am not "you" and anyone can play however they desire. i dont care

[Bazinga]

Easier by far

[socially ept outcel]

No, and honestly the people who think Dark Souls (either 1 or 3) is harder are experiencing some different game in their memories. The story bosses are much more difficult on average, and story dungeons are more difficult. The side dungeons aren't as difficult as the rest of the content though and there is more capability for the player to out-level the main content at least until the end.

[Xukelitjemeister=DDD 1000-7 ඞ]

mechanically in terms of combat a bit harder

in terms of level design + knowledge required significantly easier