So about Whips

[Dollmaker]

Yeah... they must be bugged, cause in previous games and even this one mentions this feature, that they are meant to bypass shields.

But i tested them and they do nothing, they are blocked just like any weapon, this needs to be fixed.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by < blank >:

think they mean parry shields, they cant be parried

Look at the Whip description, it straight up says they cant be blocked

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Whip

[The Black Baron]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by < blank >:

think they mean parry shields, they cant be parried

Look at the Whip description, it straight up says they cant be blocked

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Whip

Nah i prefeer that they can be blocked. No freebies for you :)

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by The Black Baron:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Look at the Whip description, it straight up says they cant be blocked

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Whip

Nah i prefeer that they can be blocked. No freebies for you :)

Nah, blocking needs its counter mate, its that or direct nerf.

[P.]

Maybe it does more stamina damage

[Rworqx]

Originally posted by P.:

Maybe it does more stamina damage

no it barely drains any stamina at all at least in pvp when i am against whip users. And i use mostly a kite shield for the occasional blocks/parries.

[Professor Hugedix]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by The Black Baron:

Nah i prefeer that they can be blocked. No freebies for you :)

Nah, blocking needs its counter mate, its that or direct nerf.

Shotel and scythe have always done partial damage through shields, I have never known whips to.

[NightUndead]

Originally posted by gh0stwizard:

No whips in any DS can bypass an armor. The only weapons which can do this:
1) Shotel, heavy attack
2) Special katana in DS 2 (+ heavy attack only)
3) may be something from DS 3, but idk

The description of whip is wrong, otherwise it is OP of all OP weapons in the game.

I'd like to point your attention to Coded Sword (in Elden Ring) which can infact damage directly through shields. It does not bounce off of shields while blocking, and I believe it deals full damage through them.

[Zapthor]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by The Black Baron:

Nah i prefeer that they can be blocked. No freebies for you :)

Nah, blocking needs its counter mate, its that or direct nerf.

the counter to shields is status effects like bleed since it can go through block

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by NightUndead:

Originally posted by gh0stwizard:

No whips in any DS can bypass an armor. The only weapons which can do this:
1) Shotel, heavy attack
2) Special katana in DS 2 (+ heavy attack only)
3) may be something from DS 3, but idk

The description of whip is wrong, otherwise it is OP of all OP weapons in the game.

I'd like to point your attention to Coded Sword (in Elden Ring) which can infact damage directly through shields. It does not bounce off of shields while blocking, and I believe it deals full damage through them.

Check out the Cipher Pata fist weapon too. Very early accessible, just need to put up the invader in the round table.

[NightUndead]

Originally posted by gh0stwizard:

Originally posted by NightUndead:

I'd like to point your attention to Coded Sword (in Elden Ring) which can infact damage directly through shields. It does not bounce off of shields while blocking, and I believe it deals full damage through them.

I have not tested it yet, but it should bypass a shield only with a heavy/charge attack. Plus it deals only holy damage. And more important, you can't infuse it with bleed, frost, fire, etc.

I've run it on a faith based character, and I can confirm that light attacks does not bounce (not entirely sure on the full damage part, it might still be reduced).

But true, you cannot infuse it with statuses

[NightUndead]

Originally posted by gh0stwizard:

Originally posted by NightUndead:

I've run it on a faith based character, and I can confirm that light attacks does not bounce (not entirely sure on the full damage part, it might still be reduced).

If you warry only about bouncing, then, perhaps, it is a bug. To be sure, you have to measure a time between attacks of whip against a shield and without it. If the time is the same, but animations are different, then, this is intended, imho.

While I don't think descriptions should be used as be all end all proof, the coded sword's description mentions that it cannot be repelled, why would you then consider it a bug for not bouncing off of shields?
In fact, I'd argue the complete opposite, like the OP is, the description says one thing, yet they observe otherwise, I'd be much more likely to call that a bug than the coded sword being bugged

[Karl Pilkington]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by < blank >:

think they mean parry shields, they cant be parried

Look at the Whip description, it straight up says they cant be blocked

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Whip

Fextralife.wiki.com data is updated and researched by the game's own community, not the developers themselves. This is obviously a case of misinformation, like many other mistakes found there. Whips can't be parried, that's what they meant. Full stop.

Btw, you've got a weapon type that, combined with a proper build and the right hands, can't be parried, can perma-stun you, proc bleed in 2 hits, and kill you from metres away... and you also want it to by-pass shields? You're having a laugh!

[The Black Baron]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by The Black Baron:

Nah i prefeer that they can be blocked. No freebies for you :)

Nah, blocking needs its counter mate, its that or direct nerf.

it already has a counter.

[Auren Wolfstein]

The point is that they don't bounce off of shields, there's a few weapons that do that. But if you have a hard enough shield a regular sword will bounce off.

[Auren Wolfstein]

Originally posted by Karl Pilkington:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Look at the Whip description, it straight up says they cant be blocked

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Whip

Fextralife.wiki.com data is updated and researched by the game's own community, not the developers themselves. This is obviously a case of misinformation, like many other mistakes found there. Whips can't be parried, that's what they meant. Full stop.

Btw, you've got a weapon type that, combined with a proper build and the right hands, can't be parried, can perma-stun you, proc bleed in 2 hits, and kill you from metres away... and you also want it to by-pass shields? You're having a laugh!

"A leather whip. Not originally used for combat, but as an instrument of pain. Through its supple attacks cannot be thwarted by parrying or even guarding, it is incapable of dealing critical hits." I think he's referring to the in game description that happens to be uploaded to the wiki.