having beaten the Sellia Hideaway

[bunies]

I can confidently say that it was not fun. This was one of the worst ideas as far a boss fight goes that i have yet to encounter.

Edit: why do people have zero reading comprehension ? I already said i beat the boss. I am not looking for advice or tips ( most of which are useless). The point is that beating this boss IT IS NOT FUN.

[Drake Ravenwolf]

Wait until you find out they reuse that boss at least 2 more times

[The Black Baron]

Originally posted by bunies:

I can confidently say that it was not fun. This was one of the worst ideas as far a boss fight goes that i have yet to encounter.

Oh you're in for a treat. It gets waaaay worse than that :D

[Seijana]

Not sure if you're looking for advice but I just used Night Maiden's Mist to kill them with percentage damage.

[bunies]

Originally posted by Seijana:

Not sure if you're looking for advice but I just used Night Maiden's Mist to kill them with percentage damage.

im looking for fun, not cheese. Granted i do like some nice smoked gouda with wine

[jasonbarron]

Haven't tried it on those bosses yet, but the crystal mobs scattered around the over world seem similarly immune to damage unless you stagger them and then deal a crit. I've found that if you can get a crit in they're so vulnerable that they go down in one shot.

[NightUndead]

Originally posted by jasonbarron:

Haven't tried it on those bosses yet, but the crystal mobs scattered around the over world seem similarly immune to damage unless you stagger them and then deal a crit. I've found that if you can get a crit in they're so vulnerable that they go down in one shot.

In my experience you only need to stagger them for them to take "normal" damage, and I've never been able to one shot them

[Grottowalker]

that was the crystal dudes ?

know your damage type. they are weak to strike damage... did you beat it with a slash or thrust weapon ?

[Xengre]

Crit them with a Misericorde. Use a weapon art that causes them to poise break. You can do the same with charged attacks but it will be a bit less effective. It trivializes this boss type even at low level/upgrade. I'd even say it makes them one of the easiest in the game.

Some of them are also vulnerable to backstabs like the caster version and the ring throwing version. I recommend always dealing with the spear one first as it seems the most aggressive in my experience.

[jasonbarron]

Originally posted by NightUndead:

Originally posted by jasonbarron:

Haven't tried it on those bosses yet, but the crystal mobs scattered around the over world seem similarly immune to damage unless you stagger them and then deal a crit. I've found that if you can get a crit in they're so vulnerable that they go down in one shot.

In my experience you only need to stagger them for them to take "normal" damage, and I've never been able to one shot them

I ran into them farming dungeons with my first late game character and only survived because my resistances were so high and I had a bunch of flasks and was able to eventually whittle them down. +25/+10 weapons weren't doing jack for damage. I just ran into the same crystal mobs up by the moonlight altar with a mid range character in my new campaign and one shot critted them with a moderately upgraded Misericorde.

I'm going to go to Sellia's Hideout the next time I play and try it on the bosses. Glintblade Phalanx Ash of War & Rocksling to stagger, hopefully, Misericorde to punish.

Edit: just saw your post, Xengre. So it wasn't just my imagination or getting lucky, it was an actual vulnerability. Man, that's what I love about this game; there's always a way.

[Climhazzard]

The important part of course is to stance break them. A good choice of ashes for that fight are the greatshield soldiers, not only are they tanky, they tend to stagger fairly well.

Consider what weapons and ashes of war you use that have the most potential to stance break an enemy. For example here are some examples I use as an intelligence build.

-Glintblade phalanx ash of war into moonveil katana L2. The glintblade phalanx ash of war does a lot of stance damage.

-Wing of astel L2. It works pretty good against crystallians. If all the explosions hit they stagger, and another L2 while they're staggered will pretty much finish them off.

-Rock sling. If there are ashes tanking for you, you can just spam this.

The power stance jump attack from most weapons ought to work alright. Some exceptions though, like daggers.

[bunies]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Crit them with a Misericorde. Use a weapon art that causes them to poise break. You can do the same with charged attacks but it will be a bit less effective. It trivializes this boss type even at low level/upgrade. I'd even say it makes them one of the easiest in the game.

Some of them are also vulnerable to backstabs like the caster version and the ring throwing version. I recommend always dealing with the spear one first as it seems the most aggressive in my experience.

all of this is completely irelevent to the point. The issue is that it is a spear constantly advancing at you, while another one is constantly spaming projectiles that change their trojectory mid flight so they hit you, and a third is spamming magic constantly especialy the shotgun/machinegun bs. The fact that if you even try to fight the spear one you will take hits from one of the two 95% of the time is bad design. Having to resort to nothing but crit spam on the spear because it gives iframes isnt fun. The fact that there is a 1/5 chance when exiting the iframes from the crit you will be in the middle of machinegun/shotgun spam is not fun. It is simply not a fun freaking fight.

Originally posted by Climhazzard:

The important part of course is to stance break them. A good choice of ashes for that fight are the greatshield soldiers, not only are they tanky, they tend to stagger fairly well.

Consider what weapons and ashes of war you use that have the most potential to stance break an enemy. For example here are some examples I use as an intelligence build.

-Glintblade phalanx ash of war into moonveil katana L2. The glintblade phalanx ash of war does a lot of stance damage.

-Wing of astel L2. It works pretty good against crystallians. If all the explosions hit they stagger, and another L2 while they're staggered will pretty much finish them off.

-Rock sling. If there are ashes tanking for you, you can just spam this.

The power stance jump attack from most weapons ought to work alright. Some exceptions though, like daggers.

read above

[♔V3RD1CT]

Originally posted by bunies:

I can confidently say that it was not fun. This was one of the worst ideas as far a boss fight goes that i have yet to encounter.

Edit: why do people have zero reading comprehension ? I already said i beat the boss. I am not looking for advice or tips ( most of which are either useless). The point is that beating this boss IT IS NOT FUN.

Cool, a subjective opinion that opens the door to all subjective opinions regardless of the op post. You'll get your stupid fake medals, and replies for being popular. None of it deserved. Who cares to begin with.

Subjectively these are stupid easy bosses made to give you a tiny challenge while on route, and I'd personally take that over more empty vast field which would be the end result of your point if karens had more control of the gaming industry.

[Lina]

Originally posted by bunies:

Originally posted by Seijana:

Not sure if you're looking for advice but I just used Night Maiden's Mist to kill them with percentage damage.

im looking for fun, not cheese. Granted i do like some nice smoked gouda with wine

this isnt cheese, this is someone using a spell to kill something, cheese is climbing out of reach of a boss and killing it

[The Black Baron]

Originally posted by Lina:

Originally posted by bunies:

im looking for fun, not cheese. Granted i do like some nice smoked gouda with wine

this isnt cheese, this is someone using a spell to kill something, cheese is climbing out of reach of a boss and killing it

To be fair this game is so broken sometimes people don't even know that they cheese a boss. Like running into radagon. Who would have thought that the whole enemy AI craps itself when you violate personal space and don't keep the six feet distance to be save. Or any of the bigger bosses that switch phases or teleport just get stuck on things and give up then accept their own deaths :D like the dragonlord, Eldenbeast, crucible knights, godskin nobles(they woll and get stuck on stuff) gargoyles ... basically most bosses lots of bosses in this game have the same issues because of copy paste in areas where they clearly haven't been tested in or were supposed to be in.

[jasonbarron]

Originally posted by bunies:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Crit them with a Misericorde. Use a weapon art that causes them to poise break. You can do the same with charged attacks but it will be a bit less effective. It trivializes this boss type even at low level/upgrade. I'd even say it makes them one of the easiest in the game.

Some of them are also vulnerable to backstabs like the caster version and the ring throwing version. I recommend always dealing with the spear one first as it seems the most aggressive in my experience.

all of this is completely irelevent to the point. The issue is that it is a spear constantly advancing at you, while another one is constantly spaming projectiles that change their trojectory mid flight so they hit you, and a third is spamming magic constantly especialy the shotgun/machinegun bs. The fact that if you even try to fight the spear one you will take hits from one of the two 95% of the time is bad design. Having to resort to nothing but crit spam on the spear because it gives iframes isnt fun. The fact that there is a 1/5 chance when exiting the iframes from the crit you will be in the middle of machinegun/shotgun spam is not fun. It is simply not a fun freaking fight.

Originally posted by Climhazzard:

The important part of course is to stance break them. A good choice of ashes for that fight are the greatshield soldiers, not only are they tanky, they tend to stagger fairly well.

Consider what weapons and ashes of war you use that have the most potential to stance break an enemy. For example here are some examples I use as an intelligence build.

-Glintblade phalanx ash of war into moonveil katana L2. The glintblade phalanx ash of war does a lot of stance damage.

-Wing of astel L2. It works pretty good against crystallians. If all the explosions hit they stagger, and another L2 while they're staggered will pretty much finish them off.

-Rock sling. If there are ashes tanking for you, you can just spam this.

The power stance jump attack from most weapons ought to work alright. Some exceptions though, like daggers.

read above

The point being, naturally, that you just wanted to complain and not hear solutions. Because solutions to make the fight manageable run contrary to the spirit with which you started the thread.

People reading this thread looking for actual help: this fight is easy if you know their vulnerability which, as I and others have explained, is poise break and then crit.