can't play this until it's properly optimized for PC

[lion]

It keeps crashing in certain parts. Maybe I don't have the specs for it, but it just stutters a lot

[Tiger Born]

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[Mechanical]

OP, that's easy anti cheat causing the horrible unplayable stuttering. Play offline, or use seamless coop.

[Dr.Abscondus]

Optimized. The most commonly used and least understood word in the gaming world. Unless you're a software programmer, best not to use it.

[MundM]

Originally posted by Dr.Abscondus:

Optimized. The most commonly used and least understood word in the gaming world. Unless you're a software programmer, best not to use it.

Nah, it's not about back seat gaming, and you shouldn't gate keep. If you can run The Witcher 3 at 60 fps with high settings, you should be able to run Elden Ring. If it doesn't run well, what word but unoptimized, is one supposed to use? If you require way better hardware to run a game smoothly, while the game doesn't provide the visuals and complexity of similar games that run better, all it can be is an issue with how the game is coded, right? If you know better, explain! Don't act smug.

[라헬]

Originally posted by MundM:

Originally posted by Dr.Abscondus:

Optimized. The most commonly used and least understood word in the gaming world. Unless you're a software programmer, best not to use it.

Nah, it's not about back seat gaming, and you shouldn't gate keep. If you can run The Witcher 3 at 60 fps with high settings, you should be able to run Elden Ring. If it doesn't run well, what word but unoptimized, is one supposed to use? If you require way better hardware to run a game smoothly, while the game doesn't provide the visuals and complexity of similar games that run better, all it can be is an issue with how the game is coded, right? If you know better, explain! Don't act smug.

A good way to look at this is looking at Dark Souls 1 and 2. I am not able to play 4k 60 hertz on Dark Souls 1, but somehow can on Dark Souls 2 while this being with a GTX 1070.

[MundM]

Originally posted by 라헬:

Originally posted by MundM:

Nah, it's not about back seat gaming, and you shouldn't gate keep. If you can run The Witcher 3 at 60 fps with high settings, you should be able to run Elden Ring. If it doesn't run well, what word but unoptimized, is one supposed to use? If you require way better hardware to run a game smoothly, while the game doesn't provide the visuals and complexity of similar games that run better, all it can be is an issue with how the game is coded, right? If you know better, explain! Don't act smug.

A good way to look at this is looking at Dark Souls 1 and 2. I am not able to play 4k 60 hertz on Dark Souls 1, but somehow can on Dark Souls 2 while this being with a GTX 1070.

Exactly. Why would you have to be a game developer, to understand vanilla Dark Souls 1 is badly optimized? When a game is on console, nobody complaints about saying it's badly optimized, because the devs know what hardware 100% of the players will have, so there's no excuse for an area to have very low framerate. Suddenly on pc, despite obviously there being unlimitted hardware combinations, you can't say it's badly optimized, because... well, it's harder to optimize, yes, that doesn't change the fact that it's an optimization issue.

[라헬]

Originally posted by MundM:

Originally posted by 라헬:

A good way to look at this is looking at Dark Souls 1 and 2. I am not able to play 4k 60 hertz on Dark Souls 1, but somehow can on Dark Souls 2 while this being with a GTX 1070.

Exactly. Why would you have to be a game developer, to understand vanilla Dark Souls 1 is badly optimized? When a game is on console, nobody complaints about saying it's badly optimized, because the devs know what hardware 100% of the players will have, so there's no excuse for an area to have very low framerate. Suddenly on pc, despite obviously there being unlimitted hardware combinations, you can't say it's badly optimized, because... well, it's harder to optimize, yes, that doesn't change the fact that it's an optimization issue.

And sadly, for this case, Elden Ring was a badly optimized game when it came out. I, playing on both PS5 and steam version, noticed how bad the stuttering was and the pop in was pretty atrocious. They kind of fixed it in the later updates, but its still there.

[Flat]

it runs perfectly fine, i've never had crashes

[Cthulhu]

For me the game stutters here and there and crashes every once and a while, but its bearable. The game mostly stutters when the world is loading, which is reasonable cause the world is HUGE. Its most likely your specs (I think).

[MundM]

Originally posted by 라헬:

Originally posted by MundM:

Exactly. Why would you have to be a game developer, to understand vanilla Dark Souls 1 is badly optimized? When a game is on console, nobody complaints about saying it's badly optimized, because the devs know what hardware 100% of the players will have, so there's no excuse for an area to have very low framerate. Suddenly on pc, despite obviously there being unlimitted hardware combinations, you can't say it's badly optimized, because... well, it's harder to optimize, yes, that doesn't change the fact that it's an optimization issue.

And sadly, for this case, Elden Ring was a badly optimized game when it came out. I, playing on both PS5 and steam version, noticed how bad the stuttering was and the pop in was pretty atrocious. They kind of fixed it in the later updates, but its still there.

Yeah, the stutters got shorter and rarer. I sometimes have this speed up moment, where the game shortly freezes, and then catches up, lol. Maybe once every 5 hours or so.
It's weird, but I think they reduced draw distance a lot in the last patch, resulting in slightly smoother framerate, but you suddenly see vegetation and what not pop in at close range. I think they did that to optimize for xbox, but just released it on pc, too, in the hopes it helps those afflicted by poor framerate? I don't know why they don't just add more options to manipulate these things.

What bothers me most, is how Fromsoft doesn't just hire more experienced pc port developers. Or maybe they did and it's just really hard to find competend devs in Japan for pc games? I really wished they learned their lesson after 4 already released pc games. Come to think about it, but Sekiro runs extremely well by comparison. Playing at 4k seems to take a bigger tank than expected, but it's always smooth. Maybe because no network play?

[brooks_c53]

i think the same thing on the draw distance part...everything seems a bit closer and narrow now but it is a bit smoother on camera rotations so i can live with seeing everything close

[라헬]

Originally posted by MundM:

Originally posted by 라헬:

And sadly, for this case, Elden Ring was a badly optimized game when it came out. I, playing on both PS5 and steam version, noticed how bad the stuttering was and the pop in was pretty atrocious. They kind of fixed it in the later updates, but its still there.

Yeah, the stutters got shorter and rarer. I sometimes have this speed up moment, where the game shortly freezes, and then catches up, lol. Maybe once every 5 hours or so.
It's weird, but I think they reduced draw distance a lot in the last patch, resulting in slightly smoother framerate, but you suddenly see vegetation and what not pop in at close range. I think they did that to optimize for xbox, but just released it on pc, too, in the hopes it helps those afflicted by poor framerate? I don't know why they don't just add more options to manipulate these things.

What bothers me most, is how Fromsoft doesn't just hire more experienced pc port developers. Or maybe they did and it's just really hard to find competend devs in Japan for pc games? I really wished they learned their lesson after 4 already released pc games. Come to think about it, but Sekiro runs extremely well by comparison. Playing at 4k seems to take a bigger tank than expected, but it's always smooth. Maybe because no network play?

I don't think it could probably be that there is no network play, but more of them using an old engine since Demon Souls. It could also be that the people who worked for optimization aren't too well adjusted at using the engine.

[Hammer_Squirrel]

Originally posted by MundM:

If you can run The Witcher 3 at 60 fps with high settings, you should be able to run Elden Ring.

Witcher 3 graphics are much lower fidelity. ER has more detailed models, higher resolution textures, longer draw distances, more detailed foliage, individual bits and bobs on the armor that animate (including for enemies), more detailed graphical effects, etc, etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgU1IVIixaY

It looked fine for its time, but you've got a serious pair of rose-colored glasses if you think that these games have equivalent demands on hardware.

[MundM]

Originally posted by Hammer_Squirrel:

Originally posted by MundM:

If you can run The Witcher 3 at 60 fps with high settings, you should be able to run Elden Ring.

Witcher 3 graphics are much lower fidelity. ER has more detailed models, higher resolution textures, longer draw distances, more detailed foliage, individual bits and bobs on the armor that animate (including for enemies), more detailed graphical effects, etc, etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgU1IVIixaY

It looked fine for its time, but you've got a serious pair of rose-colored glasses if you think that these games have equivalent demands on hardware.

You're missing the point. You obviously just wanted to be a smart ass and insult someone.
I said you should be able to run Elden Ring. Not that you have the exact same smooth experience. We are talking about Elden Ring having crash issues, stutters, pop ins, and what not. You should be able to reduce the settings to have it run better. You can't. No Fromsoft game has a good dynamic when it comes to gained fps duo to reduction of settings.

But yeah, obviously you are smarter than everybody, I'm gonna return to play Pac Man, because it looks better than Elden Ring with my pink coloured glasses on.

[ShadowDark3]

Comparing ability to run a game from 2015 (that's seven years ago now, remember) and a game that came out in 2022 isn't a very strong argument. I'm not saying ER runs fantastically, but the majority of people I've seen in these forums who have issues with stuttering, pop-in, or frame rate consistency do not have a CPU that meets minimum specs.

Coincidentally, they are usually using a CPU from five or six years ago and using games from six or seven years ago that "run flawlessly" as proof that ER should also run well on their dated hardware.