What are the rules of parrying?

[Mish101]

I can't seem to no matter what catch a fast strike with a medium shield but i can block it easy and cause a recoil and counter strike. Could it be that small shields are for fast strikes but no block potentials while medium are for parrying heavier and large are just for blocking?

[BoxerDanc]

Use Golden parry or Carian Retaliation. Make sure the attack is parryable. You need to predict parries in general.

[NightLizard]

Цитата допису Mish101:

I can't seem to no matter what catch a fast strike with a medium shield but i can block it easy and cause a recoil and counter strike. Could it be that small shields are for fast strikes but no block potentials while medium are for parrying heavier and large are just for blocking?

The rules:
1- Parry or golden parry ash of war
2- Use dagger,claw,small shield,medium shield
3- Git gud

[cybercybercybercyber4]

parry in ER is kinda crap, you might not want to make it one of your main tools.

as things are, the main advantage of small shields is their weight.
to explain a bit further , you can punish through ashes of war which was hardly a viable option in other DS games.
Now parry is just an unnecessary risk in comparison to your other options.

[Enderspoons]

Medium shields have better defenses than small shields, but are worse at parrying than small shields and daggers.

However, that doesn't matter.
As aforementioned, there are two Ashes of War that give you the best parry in the game, and you can put it on any non-Greatshield you desire with no repercussions.

... yeah. Ashes of War in this game are all around stupidly broken.

[nfinite.recursion]

A couple things to note:

1. Medium shields typically give you 7 parry frames; the buckler (small shield) give you 14 or 15 parry frames.

2. Not all attacks are parry-able.

3. Some enemies, especially bosses require multiple parries before you can reposte.

4. As others pointed out, there are ashes of war that make it easier and even allow you to parry spells.

On my first playthrough, I didn't parry much aside from the cruciable knight in the evergaol. My recommendation is to avoid parries and just dodge attacks. If you want to use a shield, ER added a counterattack move that you can use after an enemy strikes your shield or weapon when blocking. This move does big poise damage and is generally safer than parrying.

[LQIM]

Get a buckler and put carian retaliation on it

[deteringwilliam]

As others have already stated, it doesn't matter what shield you use if you put carian retaliation on it.

[Tetsuya_Kurogane]

A medium shield would have so little frames to use, like 4, but when bind with the Ashes of a special parry it goes flat 10.
The buckler is like the fastest at something like 12 open frames.

Not my work, not the accurate poll of frame data.

[TyresTyco]

To add what others said. Parry is crap in this game. It's not worth it anymore. It's like they totally forgot about it. Mainly because crit dmg is so incredibly low. A charged r2 often does more dmg then the effin crit attack. It's laughable thinking how much effort it takes to pull of some nice parries.

If you still want to learn it. Do not rely on some ash of war. Learn it the old school way. Buckler is the way if they didnt touch ds 3's frame data in regards to it.

Against crucible knights and the bell bearing hunter tho.. it has merit to learn their parry timings. Makes them easier and is managable.

[NightLizard]

Цитата допису TyresTyco:

To add what others said. Parry is crap in this game. It's not worth it anymore. It's like they totally forgot about it. Mainly because crit dmg is so incredibly low. A charged r2 often does more dmg then the effin crit attack. It's laughable thinking how much effort it takes to pull of some nice parries.

If you still want to learn it. Do not rely on some ash of war. Learn it the old school way. Buckler is the way if they didnt touch ds 3's frame data in regards to it.

Against crucible knights and the bell bearing hunter tho.. it has merit to learn their parry timings. Makes them easier and is managable.

parry makes malenia fight easier, as crucible knights too. Other fights parry is kinda useless.

[Caveman Smash]

try to parry as they pull there sword back not when they swing

[U_F_N_M]

If you aren't using the Buckler, you need to have a parrying Ash of War on the shield you want to parry with to increase the parry frames. Carian Retaliation costs no FP unless parrying spells so it's my go-to. The visual effect also helps you understand when your parry frames are active.

Different enemies have different parry timings because of the different animations and hitbox so you have to practise to learn the timing. Then you can parry everything all the time.

Also, use the Misericorde for max riposte damage.

If it just doesn't work for you, put Flame of the Redmanes on the Misericorde and stancebreak everything by spamming it for your riposte satisfaction.

[Dr.Abscondus]

If your PC cannot run the game at a solid, steady 60fps then avoid parrying even with the appropriate Ash of War. The window you have to parry is very small and fluctuations in fps will alter the timing. Some people are instinctively good at parrying. I'm not so I go for a heavy shield and block instead which is simple and easy. If you miss with one of the small shields that are best for parrying, like the Spirilhorn Shield that comes with Parry on it, then you die.

[John Titor]

Цитата допису Mish101:

What are the rules of parrying?

1. You do not talk about parrying.
   
2. You DO NOT talk about parrying.
   
3. If someone ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, whines, moans, the parry is doing its job.
   
4. One shield to an arm.
   
5. One parry at a time.
   
6. The parries are done with shields. No daggers, no swords, no fists.
   
7. Parries will open opponent up for a riposte.
   
8. If this is your first parry, you'll probably suck and miss.

[deteringwilliam]

Okay John Durden