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phosTR 2022 年 1 月 30 日 下午 4:30
EasyAntiCheat *allegedly* bans people who use MSI Afterburner and Logitech G Hub.
>>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT <<<

First of all, i'm very happy for a Souls game having an anti-cheat system, but i'm reading that this EAC software ***might have been banning people*** for using these two programs.

I use MSI Afterburner all the time to monitor CPU/GPU temps, for my GPU OC and fan control. I have a Logitech mouse/mice and i have this Logitech Hub too.

Not gonna lie, ***if this is true***, it sucks a bit. And no, i'm not complaining about Elden Ring having an anti-cheat system, which is great, but i don't wanna get banned for using MSI Afterburner and i really would like to use it when playing ER.


HERE:
https://www.ginx(dot)tv/en/battlefield/battlefield-2042-players-banned
https://charlieintel(dot)com/ea-reportedly-bans-battlefield-2042-players-using-rgb-software/159321/
On the game RUST:
https://www.reddit(dot)com/r/playrust/comments/87xdwt/just_an_update_my_eac_ban_was_lifted_false_bans/

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***EDIT: Right now in the website of EAC (https://www.easy(dot)ac/en-us/support/) if you go in the CONTACT > TECHNICAL SUPPORT option, in the list of games there isn't Elden Ring to be selected. After the game appears in the list, i suggest anyone who uses these two programs (MSI Afterburner and Logitech G Hub) to try to contact them and ask if these two softwares are allowed to be used in a game that is protected by their system.***
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最後修改者:phosTR; 2022 年 1 月 30 日 下午 5:02
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phosTR 2022 年 1 月 31 日 下午 12:35 
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
引用自 SIXALEX30
wtf? i played some games with eac like: gears 5, fortnite, apex, dead by daylight, paladins, smite and the division 2 with my msi afterburner and ghub opened and i don't get banned.
Because OP is misinformed, it's what people were doing that got Afterburner falsely flagged by some anti-cheats. If you have never cheated, you will be fine
Yeah, this is why i opened this thread. This is the second time you post to just try to stir unproductive discussion and calling me ignorant. Either discuss the main topic or please leave the thread if you just wanna be rude against others.
CazadorDeLobo 2022 年 1 月 31 日 下午 12:39 
引用自 phosTR
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
Because OP is misinformed, it's what people were doing that got Afterburner falsely flagged by some anti-cheats. If you have never cheated, you will be fine
Yeah, this is why i opened this thread. This is the second time you post to just try to stir unproductive discussion and calling me ignorant. Either discuss the main topic or please leave the thread if you just wanna be rude against others.
That is the main topic. It's not rude to correctly assess that there was misinformation present in this alarmist post. People are reading what you wrote, and going "oh no I use MSI afterburner" and are either panicking or following-up with the comments here. All I'm doing is answering them. By OP, I am referring to the original post.

You don't have to take it personally, or keep replying, but by sounding an alarm, you have to take responsibility for the consequences e.g. people asking these questions. Also, you literally said,

引用自 phosTR
>>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT <<<

First of all, i'm very happy for a Souls game having an anti-cheat system, but i'm reading that this EAC software ***might have been banning people*** for using these two programs.

I use MSI Afterburner all the time to monitor CPU/GPU temps, for my GPU OC and fan control. I have a Logitech mouse/mice and i have this Logitech Hub too.

Not gonna lie, ***if this is true***, it sucks a bit. And no, i'm not complaining about Elden Ring having an anti-cheat system, which is great, but i don't wanna get banned for using MSI Afterburner and i really would like to use it when playing ER.
I am not going out of my way to call you ignorant or insult you. You do, however, admit ignorance about the subject matter. So, don't hold the correct statement of your post being misinformed against me, because I do not hold it against you.
最後修改者:CazadorDeLobo; 2022 年 1 月 31 日 下午 12:40
Litton 2022 年 1 月 31 日 下午 3:10 
引用自 phosTR
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
Because OP is misinformed, it's what people were doing that got Afterburner falsely flagged by some anti-cheats. If you have never cheated, you will be fine
Yeah, this is why i opened this thread. This is the second time you post to just try to stir unproductive discussion and calling me ignorant. Either discuss the main topic or please leave the thread if you just wanna be rude against others.

Yeah, this guy has been doing this kind of thing for a while now, derailing threads and constantly flaming users. Idk how he hasn't been banned yet. Just ignore the troll.
MASTURBAMAN.standin 2022 年 1 月 31 日 下午 4:44 
As a proud owner of RX6800 XT can tell you to monitor GPU i need press only ALT+R, think about you nvidia maybe you did wrong.
Viper 2022 年 2 月 1 日 上午 8:17 
EAC does not know what program is running. It only knows some process is altering the game. SO the fact its Afterburner is irrelevant...Although I doubt this is true. Although Afterburner does hook into the game to get FPS readings through Riva.
最後修改者:Viper; 2022 年 2 月 1 日 上午 8:20
rusty_dragon 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 12:53 
引用自 Viper
EAC does not know what program is running. It only knows some process is altering the game. SO the fact its Afterburner is irrelevant...Although I doubt this is true. Although Afterburner does hook into the game to get FPS readings through Riva.
EAC is fact knows which programs are running, and blocks many programs. It is problematic for how it restricts usage of many programs.

Afterburner is relevant, and there were many cases in multiple games where innocent people got mass-banned for using MSI Afterburner and other harmless programs with overlays and injections.
carter guitar 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 12:54 
引用自 MASTURBAMAN.standin
As a proud owner of RX6800 XT can tell you to monitor GPU i need press only ALT+R, think about you nvidia maybe you did wrong.

at least you can easily monitor all those games that run like crap!

lol imagine a GPU overlay being your selling point. COPE.
rusty_dragon 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 1:01 
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
引用自 SIXALEX30
wtf? i played some games with eac like: gears 5, fortnite, apex, dead by daylight, paladins, smite and the division 2 with my msi afterburner and ghub opened and i don't get banned.
Because OP is misinformed, it's what people were doing that got Afterburner falsely flagged by some anti-cheats. If you have never cheated, you will be fine
Incorrect, you in fact can be falsely flagged and banned for using such harmless programs.
CazadorDeLobo 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 1:09 
引用自 rusty_dragon
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
Because OP is misinformed, it's what people were doing that got Afterburner falsely flagged by some anti-cheats. If you have never cheated, you will be fine
Incorrect, you in fact can be falsely flagged and banned for using such harmless programs.
...you then go through the proper channels and get the banned reversed, nbd.
rusty_dragon 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 1:19 
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
引用自 rusty_dragon
Incorrect, you in fact can be falsely flagged and banned for using such harmless programs.
...you then go through the proper channels and get the banned reversed, nbd.
I wonder how much of experience you have with anticheats and bans personally. Because your posts sound very theoretically. In reality for many multiplayer games there are no appeal process whatsoever.
CazadorDeLobo 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 1:36 
引用自 rusty_dragon
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
...you then go through the proper channels and get the banned reversed, nbd.
I wonder how much of experience you have with anticheats and bans personally. Because your posts sound very theoretically. In reality for many multiplayer games there are no appeal process whatsoever.
I have a lot of experience with games where getting a ban reversed was impossible due to a complete lack of support channels, but also with games that have pretty decent response time and comprehensive support staff.

I myself haven't been banned in a game since my Diablo 2 modding days, where I did all sorts of stuff I wasn't allowed to like botting and maphacking. Even logged in with mods installed on accident, forgetting what I was doing - RIP that CD key. Thus, all I know is feedback on forums about bans, where most of the time, the person complaining was probably actually cheating. No way to know, though.
Krakers 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 1:47 
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
引用自 rusty_dragon
I wonder how much of experience you have with anticheats and bans personally. Because your posts sound very theoretically. In reality for many multiplayer games there are no appeal process whatsoever.
I have a lot of experience with games where getting a ban reversed was impossible due to a complete lack of support channels, but also with games that have pretty decent response time and comprehensive support staff.

I myself haven't been banned in a game since my Diablo 2 modding days, where I did all sorts of stuff I wasn't allowed to like botting and maphacking. Even logged in with mods installed on accident, forgetting what I was doing - RIP that CD key. Thus, all I know is feedback on forums about bans, where most of the time, the person complaining was probably actually cheating. No way to know, though.
Fortunately with EAC the appeal process is very easy and if you were banned falsely (e.g. because of some software conflict) they will lift your ban. I know I've been there, with different game and corsair's software ICUE for my keyboard. Unfortunately, it took quite a while for them to reply/lift ban (around 30 days, over 2 years ago, but apparently nowadays it is quicker).
最後修改者:Krakers; 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 1:48
rusty_dragon 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 1:47 
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
引用自 rusty_dragon
I wonder how much of experience you have with anticheats and bans personally. Because your posts sound very theoretically. In reality for many multiplayer games there are no appeal process whatsoever.
I have a lot of experience with games where getting a ban reversed was impossible due to a complete lack of support channels, but also with games that have pretty decent response time and comprehensive support staff.

I myself haven't been banned in a game since my Diablo 2 modding days, where I did all sorts of stuff I wasn't allowed to like botting and maphacking. Even logged in with mods installed on accident, forgetting what I was doing - RIP that CD key. Thus, all I know is feedback on forums about bans, where most of the time, the person complaining was probably actually cheating. No way to know, though.
Well, if you know that many games don't even have appeal process, I don't know why you've disagreed with my post in first place.

As for your personal experience, you should understand that it's subjective. Good that you're a lucky guy, but reality is that luck lasts only until you get in accident.
CazadorDeLobo 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 2:00 
引用自 rusty_dragon
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
I have a lot of experience with games where getting a ban reversed was impossible due to a complete lack of support channels, but also with games that have pretty decent response time and comprehensive support staff.

I myself haven't been banned in a game since my Diablo 2 modding days, where I did all sorts of stuff I wasn't allowed to like botting and maphacking. Even logged in with mods installed on accident, forgetting what I was doing - RIP that CD key. Thus, all I know is feedback on forums about bans, where most of the time, the person complaining was probably actually cheating. No way to know, though.
Well, if you know that many games don't even have appeal process, I don't know why you've disagreed with my post in first place.

As for your personal experience, you should understand that it's subjective. Good that you're a lucky guy, but reality is that luck lasts only until you get in accident.
I just said, you appeal a ban if you did nothing wrong. Games without support channels are exceptions, and suck. How is that disagreeing and why is it a big deal? You just killed this conversation, regardless, so...
rusty_dragon 2022 年 2 月 1 日 下午 2:13 
引用自 CazadorDeLobo
引用自 rusty_dragon
Well, if you know that many games don't even have appeal process, I don't know why you've disagreed with my post in first place.

As for your personal experience, you should understand that it's subjective. Good that you're a lucky guy, but reality is that luck lasts only until you get in accident.
I just said, you appeal a ban if you did nothing wrong. Games without support channels are exceptions, and suck. How is that disagreeing and why is it a big deal? You just killed this conversation, regardless, so...
There are plenty of games without support channel. Or games where appeal process exists, but appeals never approved. Let's be real, we live in the world where publishers only care about maximizing profits and abusing customer left and right.

You've said that when you've banned for using harmless program you can go and reverse the ban through support channels, like it's easy. While in reality it's often hard or even impossible. Unless you're a popular youtuber/streamer.
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