Elden ring's story is terrible compared to wukong

[Wheee333ee33e3e]

First up, don't come in here and tell me to read item descriptions, it's just 1000 hours of vaati you binged will waiting for multiplayer.

No one tells you anything coherent, even the very first sentence you get is still unsolved - you're maidenless, who, why and where? You can dig upwards to the starting area where the dead maiden is, but it's ambiguous at best. Might be a random womam for all we know. So OK, you're the tarnished, back with Godfrey and the gang to take the elden throne, you watched enough vaati to know that, why do you want it, and why do you fight Godfrey for it? Why do you kill everyone? DLC is even worse, you could have left miquella alone, and it would not have affected your objective one bit. Instead, you parachute in, kill poor Messmer, who is literally doing nothing, provoke an old man to spawn Satan in so you can kill him, kill all of Messmer's friends, so you can get to miquella and kill him for what?

Beyond the terrible story, the fact that you have to read vague item descriptions and let vaati guess it for you is terrible. The descriptions are as vague as humanly possible. Go read the one about the bloodhound fang. For all we know, the intent was for the bloodhound knights to be a diss at the one hit wonders, the bloodhound gang. Instead, you need to listen to 100 hours of prepare to cry of something vaati made up sitting on the toilet.

Wukong is hard to decipher, but everything is there. The secret ending tells you the entire journey to the west story pulp fiction style, so everything clicks. You don't even need to read the novel, much less listen to 1000 hours of a guy who makes stuff up to get YouTube clicks. Plus, it's portrayed so artistically, stop motion, IRL models, Anime style mv, castlevania (Netflix) style Anime, plus in game cutscene. It's so rewarding and I can't wait to finish each chapter to see what they cooked up to blow my mind.

What did I get for the 1000 deaths I had to kill radahn? Miquella's just kneeling and uttering undecipherable nonsense as usual. More fooder for a 100 hour vaati vidya. Prepare to cry, miquella was going to bring the age of kindness by lobotomising everyone with his hair, much tragedy, much YouTube revenue for me.

[grumm]

damn 1000 deaths.

[grumm]

you could've talked about how heavily "inspired" the game is based off berserk but instead you bragged about not being able to comprehend anything that has more than four words. I might of agreed if you didn't act like its a matter of fact thing

[Wheee333ee33e3e]

Originally posted by grumm:

you could've talked about how heavily "inspired" the game is based off berserk but instead you bragged about not being able to comprehend anything that has more than four words. I might of agreed if you didn't act like its a matter of fact thing

Provide an example of something comprehensible. Like something vital - why are you here and what are you supposed to do?

Its the thinnest veneer of berserk. Miquella merely looks like Griffith somewhat, but he didn't betray anyone beyond (accorind to vaati) his own sister and the haligtree, and it's more neglect than betray. All the references like gugs and the armour are superficial at best.

What it has in spades is grrm boomer shock value nonsense as an incomprehensible background. Gay people! Shock! Incest! Shock! Gay incest! Shock! Murderous gay incest! Shock! Violent murderous gay incest! Shock! Selfcest! Double shock! The boomer drops his controller in shock and rage, spittle foaming at the corners of his mouth as he starts incomprehensibly shout about this evil generation, avocado toasts and house prices.

Elden ring story is dogwater. Twilight is better and more comprehensible.

[grumm]

Miquella is Griffith completely down to the motives

[Key]

Yes, ER's story isn't the best, but it's also a different type of story, that tries to achieve different things.

Main plots in Souls Games have never been great, it's the charm of the world that carries an otherwise simplistic plot about a world that's past its prime and wether it's worth carrying on or sacrificing what's left in the hopes of a better future. There's no urgency, no events that are about to unfold on their own, your journey starts after everything has already happened, and the war is already lost.

Souls games, and now ER, aren't about the plot, the story is just there to give the player a rather simple goal to pursue as they explore the world, meet characters and learn snippets of information along the way, shaping their choice of wether to preserve what's left or destroy it to perhaps start anew. It's the reason as to why all the endings are open to interpretation, you're not meant to know exactly how your choice will affect the world, just the general direction it may take.

The way I see it, it's a very unique kind of environment that resonates with people who like connecting dots and make theories about what may have happened, it's more akin to archeology than it is to reading a novel or watching a movie. The only way you're seeing the world through a sheet of stained glass.

I'm glad you're enjoying Wukong, it's a great game. That said, you're comparing apples and oranges. To make a comparison, Wukong would be reading about the events of the Greek conquest of Troy, the battles and the heroes. Elden Ring, on the other hand, is the story of the people that explored Troy hundreds of years after it fell, deciding wether to build a new city on top of the ruins.

[grumm]

EXACTLY!

[grumm]

I get this doesn’t prove my point but I find it funny that George R Martian wrote a story and Miyazaki decided to take a large steaming ♥♥♥♥ on it

[grumm]

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

Originally posted by grumm:

you could've talked about how heavily "inspired" the game is based off berserk but instead you bragged about not being able to comprehend anything that has more than four words. I might of agreed if you didn't act like its a matter of fact thing

Provide an example of something comprehensible. Like something vital - why are you here and what are you supposed to do?

Its the thinnest veneer of berserk. Miquella merely looks like Griffith somewhat, but he didn't betray anyone beyond (accorind to vaati) his own sister and the haligtree, and it's more neglect than betray. All the references like gugs and the armour are superficial at best.

What it has in spades is grrm boomer shock value nonsense as an incomprehensible background. Gay people! Shock! Incest! Shock! Gay incest! Shock! Murderous gay incest! Shock! Violent murderous gay incest! Shock! Selfcest! Double shock! The boomer drops his controller in shock and rage, spittle foaming at the corners of his mouth as he starts incomprehensibly shout about this evil generation, avocado toasts and house prices.

Elden ring story is dogwater. Twilight is better and more comprehensible.

Btw what is your pfp

[csand]

Originally posted by grumm:

I get this doesn’t prove my point but I find it funny that George R Martian wrote a story and Miyazaki decided to take a large steaming ♥♥♥♥ on it

He didn't write a story or anything, he helped with initial world building. So he made like a basic lore, world, and history for Fromsoft to build on.

[Star Step]

How much is the CCP paying you to post this?

[Key]

Originally posted by csand:

Originally posted by grumm:

I get this doesn’t prove my point but I find it funny that George R Martian wrote a story and Miyazaki decided to take a large steaming ♥♥♥♥ on it

He didn't write a story or anything, he helped with initial world building. So he made like a basic lore, world, and history for Fromsoft to build on.

Honestly I can see Martin's chunky sausage fingers all over some of the Demigods, stuff like Ranni, Marika/Radagon, Morgott, Godfrey and Godrick are very Martin, and way too complex and twisted in their motivations to be written by Miyazaki.

Let's be real, the man makes great games but his attempts at complex characters peaked with stuff like Gael, Artorias and Eygon of Carim, and they all boil down to "proud knight takes a dark path while following his duty."

Miquella is a Miyazaki character, because he's really just Griffith.

[grumm]

Originally posted by Key:

Originally posted by csand:

He didn't write a story or anything, he helped with initial world building. So he made like a basic lore, world, and history for Fromsoft to build on.

Honestly I can see Martin's chunky sausage fingers all over some of the Demigods, stuff like Ranni, Marika/Radagon, Morgott, Godfrey and Godrick are very Martin, and way too complex and twisted in their motivations to be written by Miyazaki.

Let's be real, the man makes great games but his attempts at complex characters peaked with stuff like Gael, Artorias and Eygon of Carim, and they all boil down to "proud knight takes a dark path while following his duty."

Miquella is a Miyazaki character, because he's really just Griffith.

Lmao

[Humpenstilzchen]

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

Elden ring's story is terrible compared to wukong

What story are you referring to? I haven´t found one yet..just incoherent snippets of bs lore here and there..

[Akemua]

Wukong is based on Chinese mythology. The lore already exists for anyone to easily consume.

Hell, I struggle to read any Chinese novel without Journey to the West getting quoted or referenced in some way.

It's one of the most generic stories in the world because of how old it is. The thing was written in like the 16th century.

If the devs couldn't craft a half ass decent story out of all that, that would be embarrassing.

ER may not have the best story, but Souls games have never banked on the story being the selling point. The world and boss fights have always been the selling point.

[so007]

Originally posted by Wheee333ee33e3e:

First up, don't come in here and tell me to read item descriptions, it's just 1000 hours of vaati you binged will waiting for multiplayer.

No one tells you anything coherent, even the very first sentence you get is still unsolved - you're maidenless, who, why and where? You can dig upwards to the starting area where the dead maiden is, but it's ambiguous at best. Might be a random womam for all we know. So OK, you're the tarnished, back with Godfrey and the gang to take the elden throne, you watched enough vaati to know that, why do you want it, and why do you fight Godfrey for it? Why do you kill everyone? DLC is even worse, you could have left miquella alone, and it would not have affected your objective one bit. Instead, you parachute in, kill poor Messmer, who is literally doing nothing, provoke an old man to spawn Satan in so you can kill him, kill all of Messmer's friends, so you can get to miquella and kill him for what?

Beyond the terrible story, the fact that you have to read vague item descriptions and let vaati guess it for you is terrible. The descriptions are as vague as humanly possible. Go read the one about the bloodhound fang. For all we know, the intent was for the bloodhound knights to be a diss at the one hit wonders, the bloodhound gang. Instead, you need to listen to 100 hours of prepare to cry of something vaati made up sitting on the toilet.

Wukong is hard to decipher, but everything is there. The secret ending tells you the entire journey to the west story pulp fiction style, so everything clicks. You don't even need to read the novel, much less listen to 1000 hours of a guy who makes stuff up to get YouTube clicks. Plus, it's portrayed so artistically, stop motion, IRL models, Anime style mv, castlevania (Netflix) style Anime, plus in game cutscene. It's so rewarding and I can't wait to finish each chapter to see what they cooked up to blow my mind.

What did I get for the 1000 deaths I had to kill radahn? Miquella's just kneeling and uttering undecipherable nonsense as usual. More fooder for a 100 hour vaati vidya. Prepare to cry, miquella was going to bring the age of kindness by lobotomising everyone with his hair, much tragedy, much YouTube revenue for me.

thats because youre a zoomer . and zoomers cant be arsed to read some items or put their brains at work to save their lives. you need everything laid out to you.

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