Have you seen Vaatividya's latest video?

[MundM]

He deserves some likes for releases the latest video while trying to keep it as spoiler free as possible! If you are interested, it really helps to calm down the anxiety of the game having any issues or bad design or what not. It looks amazing, it plays amazing, there are a ton of "best of soulslike" features in it... really, If you're still on the fence, watch his video, so you won't get spoiled, just trying to find some news about the current state of the game.
I'm now even more hyped!

[FlintX]

Originally posted by Groen90:

Last time I watched him hype up a game was Lords of the Fallen. I'll never trust his words again when it comes to game previews after that.

Yeah. I mean, Vaati is technically the biggest FromSoftware fanboy out there, but at least he has a very good reason for that. Dude owes his entire YT channel success to the Dark Souls games, so of course he gonna talk well about the games no matter what.

And thats is a big win/win to FromSoftware really. A massive free advertisment service from his end and in trade of what? A single copy of the game and maybe some extras from the collector's edition. A very good deal to FromSoftware indeed. Well played.

[MundM]

Originally posted by FlintX:

Originally posted by Groen90:

Last time I watched him hype up a game was Lords of the Fallen. I'll never trust his words again when it comes to game previews after that.

Yeah. I mean, Vaati is technically the biggest FromSoftware fanboy out there, but at least he has a very good reason for that. Dude owns his entire YT channel success to the Dark Souls games, so of course he gonna talk well about the games no matter what.

And thats is a big win/win to FromSoftware really. A massive free advertisment service from his end and in trade of what? A single copy of the game and maybe some extras from the collector's edition. A very good deal to FromSoftware indeed. Well played.

You're saying that as if the games don't provide plenty of reasons to love em.

[doom007]

Originally posted by hello:

Originally posted by LeNigris:

what exactly happened with that? not too familiar with the game

Ehh it's basically really clunky and boring. Like imagine playing Dark Souls but you're locked to fat rolling. Even light armor in LotF felt slow.

Bosses weren't anything special. Story was forgettable etc. That's just my opinion.

um, he called it Clunky Souls. So you saw he made a video about Lord of the Fallen and he called it clunky. You played it and found it was clunky. Where is the problem?

[FlintX]

Originally posted by MundM:

Originally posted by FlintX:

Yeah. I mean, Vaati is technically the biggest FromSoftware fanboy out there, but at least he has a very good reason for that. Dude owns his entire YT channel success to the Dark Souls games, so of course he gonna talk well about the games no matter what.

And thats is a big win/win to FromSoftware really. A massive free advertisment service from his end and in trade of what? A single copy of the game and maybe some extras from the collector's edition. A very good deal to FromSoftware indeed. Well played.

You're saying that as if the games don't provide plenty of reasons to love em.

Games can be good by the own of course. But nowadays that favorite streamer or content creator of someone can have way more advertsment power and reach than the own company who developed the games.

[Darhaksterion]

Originally posted by Webby:

Originally posted by MundM:

He deserves some likes for releases the latest video while trying to keep it as spoiler free as possible! If you are interested, it really helps to calm down the anxiety of the game having any issues or bad design or what not. It looks amazing, it plays amazing, there are a ton of "best of soulslike" features in it... really, If you're still on the fence, watch his video, so you won't get spoiled, just trying to find some news about the current state of the game.
I'm now even more hyped!

Yup, been following him for a long time. Great lore vids for all the soulsborne games. !00% worth a look.

Plus his voice is soothing.

[Groen90]

Originally posted by FlintX:

Originally posted by Groen90:

Last time I watched him hype up a game was Lords of the Fallen. I'll never trust his words again when it comes to game previews after that.

Yeah. I mean, Vaati is technically the biggest FromSoftware fanboy out there, but at least he has a very good reason for that. Dude owes his entire YT channel success to the Dark Souls games, so of course he gonna talk well about the games no matter what.

And thats is a big win/win to FromSoftware really. A massive free advertisment service from his end and in trade of what? A single copy of the game and maybe some extras from the collector's edition. A very good deal to FromSoftware indeed. Well played.

Understandable, but that time he wasn't talking about a Fromsoft game, and after seeing for myself how it turned out, he really gave me the impression he had little idea what he was talking about or he was kinda shilling it for whatever reason.
Granted it's been years now, but still I'll just stick to watching his lore videos since that's what he does best and it's what I subbed for.

[Groen90]

Originally posted by doom007:

Originally posted by hello:

Ehh it's basically really clunky and boring. Like imagine playing Dark Souls but you're locked to fat rolling. Even light armor in LotF felt slow.

Bosses weren't anything special. Story was forgettable etc. That's just my opinion.

um, he called it Clunky Souls. So you saw he made a video about Lord of the Fallen and he called it clunky. You played it and found it was clunky. Where is the problem?

The problem is that it's not "clunky" in a good way and that's only one of the countless issues that game has.

[Coin]

Originally posted by Groen90:

Originally posted by doom007:

um, he called it Clunky Souls. So you saw he made a video about Lord of the Fallen and he called it clunky. You played it and found it was clunky. Where is the problem?

The problem is that it's not "clunky" in a good way and that's only one of the countless issues that game has.

How is clunky supposed to be good?

[Groen90]

Originally posted by Coin:

Originally posted by Groen90:

The problem is that it's not "clunky" in a good way and that's only one of the countless issues that game has.

How is clunky supposed to be good?

Same way souls games are I guess... at least according to a lot of people calling them clunky over the years. They just have the right balance (or very close to "right") of animation speeds that ties in well with the amount of commitment to each action and the pace of combat, so that it ends up feeling like it has the right weight to it.

[TwoWholesHalved]

While I appricate that he did it and understand why people avoid spoilers as a general rule I feel like everyone is VASTLY overestimating their importance. Imo people only care about a blind experience cause they can only have it once, but similar to virginity, the first time is usually gonna be the WORST experience you have with it.
Im not really fiending for every scrap of intel I can get on the game, but at the same time I care very little for every new detail I find, its not going to make my experience worse to know some tidbit about lore early, or know how to get to a new area.

A good game is evergreen, you can play it knowing everything there is to know years later and still appriciate what it is and what it did, theres a good chance that going in blind might ruin your experience because of things you missed, rather then knowing things spoiling some imagined joy of suprise the first time only.

TLDR; if getting spoiled for elden ring makes the game worse, then I'll be very surpised and dissapointed

[Freak4Leeks]

Originally posted by Coin:

How is clunky supposed to be good?

monster hunter... the perfect kind of clunky

[Coin]

Originally posted by Groen90:

Originally posted by Coin:

How is clunky supposed to be good?

Same way souls games are I guess... at least according to a lot of people calling them clunky over the years. They just have the right balance (or very close to "right") of animation speeds that ties in well with the amount of commitment to each action and the pace of combat, so that it ends up feeling like it has the right weight to it.

The only clunky souls game is arguably ds2, everything else is fluid, especially BB and Sekiro. I agree about balance, they have a good balance of commitment and freedom.

Originally posted by Freak4Leeks:

Originally posted by Coin:

How is clunky supposed to be good?

monster hunter... the perfect kind of clunky

Doesn't really feel clunky to me. Not world at least.

[Groen90]

Originally posted by Coin:

Originally posted by Groen90:

Same way souls games are I guess... at least according to a lot of people calling them clunky over the years. They just have the right balance (or very close to "right") of animation speeds that ties in well with the amount of commitment to each action and the pace of combat, so that it ends up feeling like it has the right weight to it.

The only clunky souls game is arguably ds2, everything else is fluid, especially BB and Sekiro. I agree about balance, they have a good balance of commitment and freedom.

Just to be clear I'm not actually implying that these games are clunky, just that I've seen a lot of people call them such over the years.

[Deformerad Dallarydsbo]

Originally posted by Groen90:

Originally posted by Coin:

The only clunky souls game is arguably ds2, everything else is fluid, especially BB and Sekiro. I agree about balance, they have a good balance of commitment and freedom.

Just to be clear I'm not actually implying that these games are clunky, just that I've seen a lot of people call them such over the years.

One can definitley argue the souls games have been clunky for a long time, compare Dark Souls a 2011 title to 2005 titles Ninja Gaiden Black and Devil May Cry 3 for example.

[Freak4Leeks]

Originally posted by Coin:

Doesn't really feel clunky to me. Not world at least.

Clunky is just something that is heavy and slow, so the greatsword etc. takes a full 3 seconds to do another attack etc.

there is very little "clunk" with the dual blades or sword and shield, very quick to reposition and such less forethought involved