Why So Many Carries?

[Disgruntled]

Why does everyone feel the need to have an overleveled friend carry them through the entire game and trivialize the whole thing?
Do you just want to say you beat Elden Ring without having to actually put the effort in? Is it an ego thing? Do you just not really care about the game at all?
At that point, why bother? Why not just watch a playthrough on Youtube or something?

[Kalameet]

Simple: Let people have fun. Who are you to decide what's right and what's not?

[Old Captain Yon]

People enjoy jolly cooperation with friends, lonely invaders invading them. Playing with other players is always more fun, one way or another

[ErikTheRed]

some people enjoy the game like that. While I do agree they're missing out on some of the aspects that make these games great and I encourage everyone to at least try and play the game solo on another playthrough, its a videogame at the end of the day. Some people prefer to just turn their brain off and have a good time

[Burdpal]

Video games. It's a hobby, not an obligation. Remember that next time.

[Disgruntled]

Originally posted by Old Captain Yon:

People enjoy jolly cooperation with friends, lonely invaders invading them. Playing with other players is always more fun, one way or another

Wouldn't it be more fun if the co-opers were on the same level as their friends? Seems kinda pointless to just one-shot everything.

[The United States of America]

Originally posted by Disgruntled:

Why does everyone feel the need to have an overleveled friend carry them through the entire game and trivialize the whole thing?
Do you just want to say you beat Elden Ring without having to actually put the effort in? Is it an ego thing? Do you just not really care about the game at all?
At that point, why bother? Why not just watch a playthrough on Youtube or something?

As a invader its your job to make sure people like this are punished by any means. With the proper build this can be done.

[Fineous🔥]

Grettings, OP.

If you dont enjoy watching wholesome "Sunbroing" cooperation in the forums....go and read something else? Just plain and simple my dude.

Keep the help threads coming you....PEOPLE! Specially late expansion bosses like the Angry sunflower (was a blast to help a fellow tarnished a few days ago) or discount Ebrietas!.....I never saw a finger mommy help thread.

Goodbye, OP.

[ZTL-Altima]

It's a bit too high in ER, indeed. Free levels in password matchmaking should be revised. Only proper level summons or extreme cuts for overlevels. Best is to just go back to proper level summoning.

Even better, ditch the current legacy D&D character building system in favor of a more meaningful and complete character creator where you already start your game with all your character talents refined, with in world progression being just details that can be easily deducted in summon calculations.

[Disgruntled]

Originally posted by The United States of America.:

Originally posted by Disgruntled:

Why does everyone feel the need to have an overleveled friend carry them through the entire game and trivialize the whole thing?
Do you just want to say you beat Elden Ring without having to actually put the effort in? Is it an ego thing? Do you just not really care about the game at all?
At that point, why bother? Why not just watch a playthrough on Youtube or something?

As a invader its your job to make sure people like this are punished by any means. With the proper build this can be done.

I really, really don't think this mindset is very healthy. I invade, but it's to add a special challenge or give players a fun little scare, not to just ♥♥♥♥ all over everybody.
The Souls community's gotten way too vitriolic, everybody hates everybody, it's awful.

[Knavery]

Originally posted by Disgruntled:

Originally posted by Old Captain Yon:

People enjoy jolly cooperation with friends, lonely invaders invading them. Playing with other players is always more fun, one way or another

Wouldn't it be more fun if the co-opers were on the same level as their friends? Seems kinda pointless to just one-shot everything.

How about you worry about you? Don't worry about what anyone else is doing.

[Kalameet]

Originally posted by xXBrosuke420Xx:

some people enjoy the game like that. While I do agree they're missing out on some of the aspects that make these games great and I encourage everyone to at least try and play the game solo, its a videogame.

Name one single aspect those people might be missing if they do play coop.

Maybe triggering yourself a stroke due to extreme stress?
Growl in frustration for hours, smacking your head against a boss for hours?
Oh, now i do get it... the lingering dread you aren't safe anywhere, that you're some kind of survivor with dwindling sanity? Nobody got time for that, dude

[Old Captain Yon]

Originally posted by Disgruntled:

Originally posted by Old Captain Yon:

People enjoy jolly cooperation with friends, lonely invaders invading them. Playing with other players is always more fun, one way or another

Wouldn't it be more fun if the co-opers were on the same level as their friends? Seems kinda pointless to just one-shot everything.

BUT HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT? Do you... *gasp* invade and watch them?

On a more serious note, there are 2 reasons. First off, if you have a character that is say lvl 200 and your frien is just starting the game, how would you coop without lvl difference? Not everyone has a character in every lelel range. Secondly, a high-level character has better chances against invaders, who are mostly sweaty twinks with high-end gear at these low levels. I hope I explained!

[Silyon]

Originally posted by Disgruntled:

Originally posted by Old Captain Yon:

People enjoy jolly cooperation with friends, lonely invaders invading them. Playing with other players is always more fun, one way or another

Wouldn't it be more fun if the co-opers were on the same level as their friends? Seems kinda pointless to just one-shot everything.

Depends. Elden Ring is a long game even if you know what you're doing and it can take forever for a new player to the game to catch up to their friends that are already at endgame. Or perhaps playing a power fantasy of steamrolling encounters with endgame spells is what people find fun. Perhaps they're invested in Fashionsouls and the perfect (tm) weapon to complement their outfit is one of those nothing-swords you find in endgame areas like Elphiel or Farum Azula.

There's lots of ways to define what is or isn't fun, and difficult or challenging encounters are only one way.

[An Irate Walrus]

Why care about how other people complete the PvE portion of a video game? It should have absolutely zero impact on your life--and if it does, that's a concern for the mirror, not anyone else.

[Ashenran]

Originally posted by Disgruntled:

Why does everyone feel the need to have an overleveled friend carry them through the entire game and trivialize the whole thing?
Do you just want to say you beat Elden Ring without having to actually put the effort in? Is it an ego thing? Do you just not really care about the game at all?
At that point, why bother? Why not just watch a playthrough on Youtube or something?

Since when gaming mean * effort * and not * enjoyment * ?