Seamless co-op is pretty popular to the point where it should exist on Steam as a separate mod software?

[Kai]

There are a bunch of games where modding support doesn't 'exist' for the game persay, but the software is put on Steam to make it more easily accessible to run it as a separate launcher.

[Kai]

And then you have Bethesda games which are very moddable, but still uses a separate launcher for overhaul mods itself.

[echo_ML]

Go to the discord and ask for it then

[WOKEGOD]

Steam not gonna give a damn about it don’t bother

[Sir.Beast]

couldnt you just copy the directory twice and have 1 for that and one for cringe baby community?

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Kai:

There are a bunch of games where modding support doesn't 'exist' for the game persay, but the software is put on Steam to make it more easily accessible to run it as a separate launcher.

I don't think they want it MORE accessible.
I mean from what I've gathered, the Seamless dev has been driven to their wits end with the petulant demands of random strangers, and the last thing they'd want is to multiply the screeching and demands tenfold.

[Nxce]

It's not a CO-OP game, why the ♥♥♥♥ are so many people shilling this shjt.

[Kai]

Originally posted by Grumbal:

It's not a CO-OP game, why the ♥♥♥♥ are so many people shilling this shjt.

It has co-op built in, so claiming it's not a co-op game would imply you are lying about the game.

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Originally posted by Kai:

There are a bunch of games where modding support doesn't 'exist' for the game persay, but the software is put on Steam to make it more easily accessible to run it as a separate launcher.

I don't think they want it MORE accessible.
I mean from what I've gathered, the Seamless dev has been driven to their wits end with the petulant demands of random strangers, and the last thing they'd want is to multiply the screeching and demands tenfold.

Yes that's up to the dev if they wish to make it accessible. I think it was Source engine games that ended up having separate launchers in general since long ago for standalone 'mods' using the SDK.

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by Grumbal:

It's not a CO-OP game, why the ♥♥♥♥ are so many people shilling this shjt.

Because it can be. Guess how.

[Kai]

Originally posted by Sir.Beast:

couldnt you just copy the directory twice and have 1 for that and one for cringe baby community?

The game still uses the same executable, Seamless co-op already creates a different directory, but it's executable is different hence doesn't load EAC and connects to a different server. I'm talking about accessibility for Steam users in general who are new to modding, though that's catering to a different audience.

But it's up to the devs to 'request' to add it as a software on Steam that users can download and automatically use from the get-go as Steam clients knows where their games are installed and don't need a standlone separate installer when installing it on Steam storefront.

You have other 'non-game' software which is used to run mods, like for Terraria modded systems which are different from the base game.

I'm more surprised that a 'mod loader' sort of software isn't common to be found on Steam alongside the game it's used for often, because it would popularize the modding platform massively and increase awareness and even promote the base game itself to be purchased. (Probably because websites like NexusMods wants to capitalize on the modding community by profiting without having to give Steam a split of it).

[Ashenran]

Originally posted by Grumbal:

It's not a CO-OP game, why the ♥♥♥♥ are so many people shilling this shjt.

it have co-op so it's co-op. dummy and since you whine, they are right to use this mod like that they avoid twinks who invade early with end game weapon / rots like you coward.

[DragynDance]

You guys act like steam has any say in this at all. Fromsoft and especially Bandai Namco HATE modding, and don't want anything like that, that competes with their ideal way to play the game.

[Kai]

Originally posted by DragynDance:

You guys act like steam has any say in this at all. Fromsoft and especially Bandai Namco HATE modding, and don't want anything like that, that competes with their ideal way to play the game.

Miyazaki says otherwise, and if so then all forms of modding would have C&D from the get go ages ago.

If Bandai Namco and From Software attacked modding, their playerbase would vanish quicker.

Also there is no 'ideal way to play the game' in truth, there is the 'developer's designed method' laid out in the game to guide the player, but the player don't have to follow it, and aren't punished for not doing so.

[zero]

i dont really get the point, honestly, the entire thing with nexusmods is that its a tool that makes it easy to do anyway, the only time ive seen an exception would be tmodloader for terraria, and that works fundamentally different then just a mod in itself.

[Autoro]

Given that games like Skyrim have the Enderal conversion as their own store page here on steam, I don't see why we couldn't do this with the Seamless Co-Op mod.

[Action Man]

I'm trying to figure out what you're asking. You want Steam to create software that makes modding games easier? If so, then no, I don't think Steam should be expected to create all this software for games they make available.

Do you want companies to make their games more easily modded? As much as I like mods for games, that should be up to the game makers/studios themselves.

Seamless Co-op is 'pretty popular', but that's a very nebulous term. In looking at the nexus, the mod is just shy of 2.2 million unique downloads. Thus far, Elden Ring has sold over 25 million units (brief googling). That's less than 10% of the player base. Is it really 'pretty popular'?

Both of these numbers count for total sales, not DLC exclusive. The Nexus doesn't show how many unique downloads by date (at least not without a more thorough search that I don't care to try to do).