Long range attack for dex/strength/bleed builds

[Uncle BuLLee]

Hey folks.

I am level 307 ng+2, took screenshots of my build below, I am going through main bosses first try so far in the dlc hence why you will learn I want to keep this build as intact as posssible.

I like to get the odd invaders frequently to have a duel and to collect fast runes, but I face quite a few invaders that give up, usually mage/range or simply weak players, that like to run away and hide in very far places where I cannot find them or simply run towards large enemies hoping to make it harder for me to win.

I want to figure out a way to distribute my points fairly so I can utilise some efficient range attack without having to sacrifice my build too much. as you can see I am running an arcane/bleed build mainly and I like to stack my endurance to carry good armour and shield.

Any advice is welcome, interested to see if anyone tested an efficient way, even at a lower level and I can calculate it on a ratio perspective.

As you can see the current spells I have are good bleed spells but slow and short range, and not a fan of the dragon rot/freeze etc, slow and means I have to invest into more faith, and faith will not contribute well into my build, I feel.

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[Uncle BuLLee]

i wear the white mask for that 10% damage after bleed, and tree sentinel greaves and body armour for just negation and poise btw.

I do not want to respec every time I want to play pvp, hope all this info from my build helps you evaluate and suggest a better outcome.

[Darkstorm]

Bolt of gransax has big range, longer than most sorcieries. Also rune of godrick sucks for that level.

[Old Captain Yon]

Pots and consumables. Jar cannon. Anything with aoe. Best ranged aow for occult build is Spectral spear but it is easy to dodge and requires building around it a bit

[Uncle BuLLee]

Origineel geplaatst door Old Captain Yon:

Pots and consumables. Jar cannon. Anything with aoe. Best ranged aow for occult build is Spectral spear but it is easy to dodge and requires building around it a bit

Oh man I have the Spectral spear ash on occult in the cross-naginata and its fantastic - such an awesome spear and versatile but honestly mohg spear with high arcane is just wild I am really enjoying the damage output, bleed output and range altogether.

unless there is a good spear in the dlc that can replace those both..

I was actually thinking of having to sacrifice mohgs spear if I cant find a solution from the community as a last resort. thanks for your input

[Old Captain Yon]

Origineel geplaatst door BuLLee:

Origineel geplaatst door Old Captain Yon:

Pots and consumables. Jar cannon. Anything with aoe. Best ranged aow for occult build is Spectral spear but it is easy to dodge and requires building around it a bit

Oh man I have the Spectral spear ash on occult in the cross-naginata and its fantastic - such an awesome spear and versatile but honestly mohg spear with high arcane is just wild I am really enjoying the damage output, bleed output and range altogether.

unless there is a good spear in the dlc that can replace those both..

I was actually thinking of having to sacrifice mohgs spear if I cant find a solution from the community as a last resort. thanks for your input

Mohg spear is king for PvE, for PvP it is good too as it is the longest Greatspear in the game with bleed (Greatspears have hyperarmor 2-handed, are quite fast and outspace many weapons). It is still best PvE weapon in game even after nerf, considering it can hit through walls and floors (Black Keep was a joke with it, Sacrificial axe and new dew talisman for FP regen, you can clear whole dungeons with NIHIL without wasting a single blue flask). It's range is gimped in pvp however...

There is a very good option - Blood-infused spear that you get from Boar rider boss remembrance. Fast (heavy thrusting sword moveset), almost twice bleed buildup AND more phys pierce damage than Mohg spear, and is quite long.

Bloodfiend's forks are a trap, they got nerfed hard, gimped even.

Bloodfiend arm is good for PvP with Savage lion's claw, if your enemy is dumb enough to eat it.

For really RANGED options tho, you better get some extra items or good ol dragon spells

[Croxio]

I'm not at all close in terms of level or advancement. But just increased the "mind" to have more mana for magic seems like a better thing to do for a ranged upgrade. a your level 10 seems very small, at least mounted at 20 to be more comfortable.

[Uncle BuLLee]

Origineel geplaatst door Croxio:

I'm not at all close in terms of level or advancement. But just increased the "mind" to have more mana for magic seems like a better thing to do for a ranged upgrade. a your level 10 seems very small, at least mounted at 20 to be more comfortable.

Yea well aware of my low fp I need more even if I don’t use spells it’s half gone when I use any weapon skill. It was originally 20 but I put everything in arcane to try out the damage output and it made a difference so I kept it.

[Uncle BuLLee]

Origineel geplaatst door Old Captain Yon:

Origineel geplaatst door BuLLee:

Oh man I have the Spectral spear ash on occult in the cross-naginata and its fantastic - such an awesome spear and versatile but honestly mohg spear with high arcane is just wild I am really enjoying the damage output, bleed output and range altogether.

unless there is a good spear in the dlc that can replace those both..

I was actually thinking of having to sacrifice mohgs spear if I cant find a solution from the community as a last resort. thanks for your input

Mohg spear is king for PvE, for PvP it is good too as it is the longest Greatspear in the game with bleed (Greatspears have hyperarmor 2-handed, are quite fast and outspace many weapons). It is still best PvE weapon in game even after nerf, considering it can hit through walls and floors (Black Keep was a joke with it, Sacrificial axe and new dew talisman for FP regen, you can clear whole dungeons with NIHIL without wasting a single blue flask). It's range is gimped in pvp however...

There is a very good option - Blood-infused spear that you get from Boar rider boss remembrance. Fast (heavy thrusting sword moveset), almost twice bleed buildup AND more phys pierce damage than Mohg spear, and is quite long.

Bloodfiend's forks are a trap, they got nerfed hard, gimped even.

Bloodfiend arm is good for PvP with Savage lion's claw, if your enemy is dumb enough to eat it.

For really RANGED options tho, you better get some extra items or good ol dragon spells

Thanks dude will certainly try that, I have not fought the boar yet so look forward to it. Just wondering can I have the spectral ash if war on it?


I’ve experienced a few players with lightening swirls that break stance easily you wouldn’t happen to know what ash of war that is? They lift up in the air and swirl down with full lightening builds.. most players carry two axes with this build

[Old Captain Yon]

Origineel geplaatst door BuLLee:

Origineel geplaatst door Old Captain Yon:

Mohg spear is king for PvE, for PvP it is good too as it is the longest Greatspear in the game with bleed (Greatspears have hyperarmor 2-handed, are quite fast and outspace many weapons). It is still best PvE weapon in game even after nerf, considering it can hit through walls and floors (Black Keep was a joke with it, Sacrificial axe and new dew talisman for FP regen, you can clear whole dungeons with NIHIL without wasting a single blue flask). It's range is gimped in pvp however...

There is a very good option - Blood-infused spear that you get from Boar rider boss remembrance. Fast (heavy thrusting sword moveset), almost twice bleed buildup AND more phys pierce damage than Mohg spear, and is quite long.

Bloodfiend's forks are a trap, they got nerfed hard, gimped even.

Bloodfiend arm is good for PvP with Savage lion's claw, if your enemy is dumb enough to eat it.

For really RANGED options tho, you better get some extra items or good ol dragon spells

Thanks dude will certainly try that, I have not fought the boar yet so look forward to it. Just wondering can I have the spectral ash if war on it?


I’ve experienced a few players with lightening swirls that break stance easily you wouldn’t happen to know what ash of war that is? They lift up in the air and swirl down with full lightening builds.. most players carry two axes with this build

This is the ash of war you get from the said weapon from Boar, pre-equipped (a spinny purple gravity missile). Spear is the only remembrance weapon that is infusible, and comes with an ash of war too. Even better, this aow can be applied to any affinity, including blood, like Cragblade. An S tier weapon overall

[Old Captain Yon]

Origineel geplaatst door BuLLee:

Origineel geplaatst door Old Captain Yon:

Mohg spear is king for PvE, for PvP it is good too as it is the longest Greatspear in the game with bleed (Greatspears have hyperarmor 2-handed, are quite fast and outspace many weapons). It is still best PvE weapon in game even after nerf, considering it can hit through walls and floors (Black Keep was a joke with it, Sacrificial axe and new dew talisman for FP regen, you can clear whole dungeons with NIHIL without wasting a single blue flask). It's range is gimped in pvp however...

There is a very good option - Blood-infused spear that you get from Boar rider boss remembrance. Fast (heavy thrusting sword moveset), almost twice bleed buildup AND more phys pierce damage than Mohg spear, and is quite long.

Bloodfiend's forks are a trap, they got nerfed hard, gimped even.

Bloodfiend arm is good for PvP with Savage lion's claw, if your enemy is dumb enough to eat it.

For really RANGED options tho, you better get some extra items or good ol dragon spells

Thanks dude will certainly try that, I have not fought the boar yet so look forward to it. Just wondering can I have the spectral ash if war on it?


I’ve experienced a few players with lightening swirls that break stance easily you wouldn’t happen to know what ash of war that is? They lift up in the air and swirl down with full lightening builds.. most players carry two axes with this build

Oh wait sorry I misread. Lightning (yellow) twirl comes from Death knight twinaxes, it is a semi-unique skill (other death knight weapon has it too). It is from (unsurprisingly) a Death knight, which is a boss in one of the catacombs (Scorpion river or Fog rift, there are two and each has a unique weapon)

[Uncle BuLLee]

Origineel geplaatst door Old Captain Yon:

Origineel geplaatst door BuLLee:

Thanks dude will certainly try that, I have not fought the boar yet so look forward to it. Just wondering can I have the spectral ash if war on it?


I’ve experienced a few players with lightening swirls that break stance easily you wouldn’t happen to know what ash of war that is? They lift up in the air and swirl down with full lightening builds.. most players carry two axes with this build

Oh wait sorry I misread. Lightning (yellow) twirl comes from Death knight twinaxes, it is a semi-unique skill (other death knight weapon has it too). It is from (unsurprisingly) a Death knight, which is a boss in one of the catacombs (Scorpion river or Fog rift, there are two and each has a unique weapon)

thanks for this info dude, was struggling to google it.