lower that meta rune level for dlc?

[Figs]

Been playing through at 85 +9, and there's not been a single summon sign. Not one.

Hopefully people will bring down the meta over time, as you get way wider whole world invasions and coop as people are actually traversing the game around that rune level.

It's not bad if you don't split stats or try to 25+ faith. e.g. night claws, raksashas great katana.

Raksashas is at 1180 at +10 shadow frags, and the claws over 1000.

I guess it's people at rune level 1, then nothing, then 125+ for dlc?

[Key]

That's just not gonna happen.

The vast majority of players won't be able to beat Mohg till they're 100+ on your average playthrough, and almost nobody on their first playthrough starts a DLC before finishing the game.

[Sham!]

tbh you kinda just end at around 100ish to the dlc unless you literally beeline for radahn and then mohg

all dlc bosses also drop a ton of runes

[ReBootXD]

It’s more difficult to move a meta level down than up, considering players will have to make new characters to get into that bracket.

There’s only so many times the average player can run through the game and collect all the cookbooks, talismans, and spells before it drives them mad.

[Figs]

quite mad.

I for one skip most things, I can't make proper arrows on this character ... And just got ansbach's bow for him. It's decent too. That WA smacks more effectively than I thought it might... so backtracking becomes like a touring detour.

I refuse to find or talk to horrid insect creatures, and they hide in tall grasses. I've only seen 1x of the friendly brown mantis-like beasts, and disapprove of morrow or whatever his name is. The simpleton in green armor with rot pots. Sadness forever.

[Astral Projection]

If anything the meta level would rise over time.

There's zero chance anyone but hardcore players would deliberately attempt to gimp their stats for this game, which is already hard enough.

[Faust Wither]

125-300 is meta level for dlc and i don't think it will go lower.

[zero]

the meta level exists to ensure there is always a range in which people can get multiplayer when it ultimately dies out, while also giving players enough stats to make a viable build to both play the game naturally, and engage in multiplayer/pvp.

its not gonna lower from its general 150 range just cause people's skills improve, it would defeat the point.

[prasun94]

buy me elden ring 2 then I might consider your opinion OP.

[Figs]

Diposting pertama kali oleh zero:

the meta level exists to ensure there is always a range in which people can get multiplayer when it ultimately dies out, while also giving players enough stats to make a viable build to both play the game naturally, and engage in multiplayer/pvp.

its not gonna lower from its general 150 range just cause people's skills improve, it would defeat the point.

I agree it likely won't go down, for a while at least.

But lower level means you have nice dlc things at a point where others you face (eg in invasions) generally do not, unless they mule/trade.

So there's an advantage going through lower.

As an extreme, Claws of night at lvl 30 at +0 would do very well as example, or having the divine beast footstomp. It'd wreck folk. Same deal with regular beast claws and a bloodflame / lightning enchant.

[Nifty]

Honestly the real meta level for Elden Ring post dlc is 160.

Or ten levels higher then base game.

You will get instant summons and instant arena fights all day long on consoles.

You want to be hitting both the people who arbitrarily stop around 150, and the natural players who will progress past that point.

[zero]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Figs:

Diposting pertama kali oleh zero:

the meta level exists to ensure there is always a range in which people can get multiplayer when it ultimately dies out, while also giving players enough stats to make a viable build to both play the game naturally, and engage in multiplayer/pvp.

its not gonna lower from its general 150 range just cause people's skills improve, it would defeat the point.

I agree it likely won't go down, for a while at least.

But lower level means you have nice dlc things at a point where others you face (eg in invasions) generally do not, unless they mule/trade.

So there's an advantage going through lower.

As an extreme, Claws of night at lvl 30 at +0 would do very well as example, or having the divine beast footstomp. It'd wreck folk. Same deal with regular beast claws and a bloodflame / lightning enchant.

im not exactly sure what your advantage even is, cause regardless of the actual number, you are capable of obtaining anything, the point is a static number was picked to ensure a community and with some wiggle room for stats.

[Rethias]

Off peak meta levels, the game is pretty barren.

[Figs]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rethias:

Off peak meta levels, the game is pretty barren.

ya. literally ZERO summons in DLC. i can wait a good 10m before a given boss. nothing.

contrasting this, putting up the co-op seek or invasion seek signs hooks me right up - but back in the main game.

you look on the community page and there's often a quarter million in game, at worst like 100k. where are they? all at lvl 150, or 1-50? guess so.

[zero]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Figs:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rethias:

Off peak meta levels, the game is pretty barren.

ya. literally ZERO summons in DLC. i can wait a good 10m before a given boss. nothing.

contrasting this, putting up the co-op seek or invasion seek signs hooks me right up - but back in the main game.

you look on the community page and there's often a quarter million in game, at worst like 100k. where are they? all at lvl 150, or 1-50? guess so.

through natural play most people will be level 100+ by the time they get into the dlc, so yes, seeing anyone lower will be quite rare.

[Nihrahk]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Nifty:

Honestly the real meta level for Elden Ring post dlc is 160.

Or ten levels higher then base game.

You will get instant summons and instant arena fights all day long on consoles.

You want to be hitting both the people who arbitrarily stop around 150, and the natural players who will progress past that point.

I think 166 is the real meta level here, and it allows you to connect with people at 150 and 200. It's a win-win.