Good build for discovering/playing with new weapons?

[abirdwitharms]

Hey I want to run a build where I can be able to have access to as much of the roster as possible without having the trouble of doing very low damage by being too spread out. Any build ideas?

My first choice is to run quality but I feel like I may miss out on incants (Never really been a spell guy but I LOVE incants.) and ofc an absurd vigor level will tank about 1/3 of my build. Can always larval tear to tweak tho!

Not really caring about pvp/pve viability, more so just not being an.. undercooked character for mid-late game bosses/areas. Especially in SOTE as I have yet to run it and may use this build to try out new weapons in the DLC.

So not really an asking for help to make a build, but seeing if anyone ran a build like this for themselves. Thanks in advance!!

[Silyon]

Originally posted by abirdwitharms:

...Not really caring about pvp/pve viability...

That right there says you don't need a build, because if you're not trying to restrict yourself to a specific level range for PvP purposes there's no reason to stop leveling at any point. Go for 80's across the board, focus on reaching 40 Vigor before anything else and concentrate on either STR or DEX after that.

What you need is Rune farming spots. Base game, the best one is Mohg's palace. Midgame, I'd go for the War-torn Catacombs at the far end of Radahn's arena. Early game, picking on the Vulgar Militia outside the Bestial Sanctum. If you have the DLC, everything in it drops way more runes than anything base game.

[Ironwu]

"...ofc an absurd vigor level will tank about 1/3 of my build..." I assume you mean '...take about...".

This is a mistake. You cannot really 'Tank' damage in Elden Ring. It will work for a short time in the early game, but in the later game if you take hits, you can lose pretty much all your health pretty quickly.

You should look at your health, armor, and defenses as things to keep you from getting one or two shot killed and afford you a chance to heal up.

It is far better to build in order to kill various types of Bosses quickly rather than for personal endurance. Skill + DPS will win every time. :)

Final Note: A One-Trick Pony in Elden Ring is a Dead Pony. Look into having some of everything available to use. Once you get far enough along, then look into becoming a one-Build God-Slayer.

Good Luck
Have Fun

[Talilover]

As far as weapons go I think something like 30 str/ 30 dex will let you use most weapons ( or at least get the feel of weapon classes, you don't need to shell out the dex for blade of Melania to know how katanas feel) but you may not get the true taste of potential power as some weapons rely on their scaling.

Doubly so with spells, you should really try to find one that your most interested in instead of juggling int/faith/ arcane on top of your two physical stats

Failing that ofc you can always just respec to experiment around like you said

[abirdwitharms]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Originally posted by abirdwitharms:

...Not really caring about pvp/pve viability...

That right there says you don't need a build, because if you're not trying to restrict yourself to a specific level range for PvP purposes there's no reason to stop leveling at any point. Go for 80's across the board, focus on reaching 40 Vigor before anything else and concentrate on either STR or DEX after that.

What you need is Rune farming spots. Base game, the best one is Mohg's palace. Midgame, I'd go for the War-torn Catacombs at the far end of Radahn's arena. Early game, picking on the Vulgar Militia outside the Bestial Sanctum. If you have the DLC, everything in it drops way more runes than anything base game.

Thank you for farming spots!! And sorry i didnt mention but I am actually aiming to stay at 150 (maybe higher if my tweaking after the fact isnt enough.) just for the sake of having a nicely structured build.

[LuckyCheshire]

Originally posted by abirdwitharms:

I want to run a build where I can be able to have access to as much of the roster as possible without having the trouble of doing very low damage by being too spread out.

So basically you want it all. That's fine, just keep leveling then. You're not really going to have a 'build' though. 11 Int is necessary for all the Smithscript (throwing) weapons in the DLC for some reason btw.

[Talilover]

Originally posted by Ironwu:

"...ofc an absurd vigor level will tank about 1/3 of my build..." I assume you mean '...take about...".

This is a mistake. You cannot really 'Tank' damage in Elden Ring. It will work for a short time in the early game, but in the later game if you take hits, you can lose pretty much all your health pretty quickly.

You should look at your health, armor, and defenses as things to keep you from getting one or two shot killed and afford you a chance to heal up.

It is far better to build in order to kill various types of Bosses quickly rather than for personal endurance. Skill + DPS will win every time. :)

Final Note: A One-Trick Pony in Elden Ring is a Dead Pony. Look into having some of everything available to use. Once you get far enough along, then look into becoming a one-Build God-Slayer.

Good Luck
Have Fun

I think it's more so as opposed to older games you're heavily encouraged to pump Vig to at least 40, if not more, to avoid oneshots. Dark souls 1 for comparison you can just leave it alone while you focus on you endurance or weapon skills. Don't think he's going in with the intent to never dodge or tank all the damage, just wants a comfy healthbar

Armor does play a bigger role in this game tho for sure

[LuckyCheshire]

Originally posted by abirdwitharms:

Thank you for farming spots!! And sorry i didnt mention but I am actually aiming to stay at 150 (maybe higher if my tweaking after the fact isnt enough.) just for the sake of having a nicely structured build.

Ah. Then what you should be looking at is just collecting Larval Tears and switching your build up periodically to try different things out. If you try to do everything without respecing, you're going to have a very difficult time.

[abirdwitharms]

Originally posted by Ironwu:

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This is a mistake. You cannot really 'Tank' damage in Elden Ring.

Respectfully, the ♥♥♥♥ i cant. I am thankful your advisory though!

[Ironwu]

Originally posted by abirdwitharms:

Originally posted by Ironwu:

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This is a mistake. You cannot really 'Tank' damage in Elden Ring.

Respectfully, the ♥♥♥♥ i cant. I am thankful your advisory though!

Then, I wish you the best of luck. :)

[Talilover]

Originally posted by abirdwitharms:

Originally posted by Silyon:

That right there says you don't need a build, because if you're not trying to restrict yourself to a specific level range for PvP purposes there's no reason to stop leveling at any point. Go for 80's across the board, focus on reaching 40 Vigor before anything else and concentrate on either STR or DEX after that.

What you need is Rune farming spots. Base game, the best one is Mohg's palace. Midgame, I'd go for the War-torn Catacombs at the far end of Radahn's arena. Early game, picking on the Vulgar Militia outside the Bestial Sanctum. If you have the DLC, everything in it drops way more runes than anything base game.

Thank you for farming spots!! And sorry i didnt mention but I am actually aiming to stay at 150 (maybe higher if my tweaking after the fact isnt enough.) just for the sake of having a nicely structured build.

Think your goal of testing out as much stuff as possible and staying level 150 is a bit contradictory lol. I know you said you don't care about viability (well to some degree you have to right? Nothing's stopping you from using weapons without metting the requirements if you don't) but a lot of builds are hyperfocused on one or two stats being pushed to like 80 (on top of the decent vig you mentioned, and mind if you're going for any type of spell build)

[abirdwitharms]

Originally posted by Talilover:

Think your goal of testing out as much stuff as possible and staying level 150 is a bit contradictory lol. I know you said you don't care about viability (well to some degree you have to right? Nothing's stopping you from using weapons without metting the requirements if you don't) but a lot of builds are hyperfocused on one or two stats being pushed to like 80 (on top of the decent vig you mentioned, and mind if you're going for any type of spell build)

Totally right, my idea is mainly a build for testing weapons that I may solely use for another build while also standing on its own feet for tough times in the game. A generalist with a limit that can survive invasions/bosses/summons

[abirdwitharms]

Originally posted by LuckyCheshire:

Ah. Then what you should be looking at is just collecting Larval Tears and switching your build up periodically to try different things out. If you try to do everything without respecing, you're going to have a very difficult time.

Likely yes, but im gonna do some work in mugen and drop it and yall can beat it up

[Talilover]

Originally posted by abirdwitharms:

Originally posted by Talilover:

Think your goal of testing out as much stuff as possible and staying level 150 is a bit contradictory lol. I know you said you don't care about viability (well to some degree you have to right? Nothing's stopping you from using weapons without metting the requirements if you don't) but a lot of builds are hyperfocused on one or two stats being pushed to like 80 (on top of the decent vig you mentioned, and mind if you're going for any type of spell build)

Totally right, my idea is mainly a build for testing weapons that I may solely use for another build while also standing on its own feet for tough times in the game. A generalist with a limit that can survive invasions/bosses/summons

Then yeah, you can just go with the quality build idea before hyper-focusing on something that really gelled with you on subsequent builds/ respecs. The earlier strength/ dex split I mentioned should let you use some weapons till you find something you like then you can go all in to make the most out of it's scaling (if it's important)

Said you don't care about sorceries all that much so outside of weapons/ some incantations having that pesky int requirement you can probably ignore that stat. Faith is more for slinging lighting/ rocks at people while arcane is about turning into dragons or squeezing the most out of bleed/ frostbite weapons.

There are a handful of items you can use to boost your stats (talismans that boost a stat by 5/ talismans that boost all your stats but make you take more damage, flasks that temp increase a stat by 5, armor pieces that increase stats a bit, great rune that increases all stats by 5) that you can use early on to help out with your testing phase too

[⛧Vinn⛧]

40 strength 40 dex allows you to wield almost every weapon if you just wanna go for trying a lot of movesets

[abirdwitharms]

Running vagabond

All stats stay the same except for Vig, Mind, Str, and Dex.

VIG 55 (Beating tf out of the vigor check allegations)
MIN 19
END 20
STR 55
DEX 55
INT 9
FTH 9
ARC 7

Armor is raging wolf set (not subject to change ever, characters name is “Tarnished Fr”)

Talismans applied are base level and will be changed according to weapon/incants.
Dragoncrest Greatshield talisman
Pearldrake talisman +3
Radagon soreseal (none of this relies on soreseal, I just really like negation and will change out often if im getting hammed a lik too much)
Shard of alexander

Basic ahh talismans

IF we run incants, 10 off vig 10 off dex 10 off str and 4 for mind while dumping the rest in fth and dropping a two fingas heirloom if needed.

Thoughts? OH, and i will be using shields, most of the time.