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Dollmaker May 16, 2022 @ 1:54am
Weapons that need some fixing
So some weapons have some... weird issues, or are just awful in general.

Duelist Greataxe and Rotten Greataxe:
What nonsense is the scaling of these two weapons? 30 Str requirements which is by no means low, but it scales better from Dex? what? This makes hard to do Elemental or Status Infusions on them since the Dmg will suffer from it unless you have a lot of Dex and even if you can Infuse it with Heavy, the dmg wont be that good either.

It honestly feels like someone screw up when programing the scaling of this weapon.

Varre's Bouquet:
Youll continue to be Maidenless trying to use this awful hammer... the dmg of this thing is beyond abysmal that even daggers can surpass it, its sad for such an unique design of a weapon, doesnt help that Hammers in general arent that amazing due to lack of Hyper Armor, and while being able to buff it is a nice thing, it doesnt outweigh its horrendously low dmg.

To make things worse, it has an incompatible Ash of War, Blood Tax, which is basically the same has Repeated Trust but with life steal, who would even use this on such a short weapon? It would have been better to have an Unique Ash of War, like maybe creating a Mist that causes Bleed, similar to the Putrid Corpses that explode.

Dragon Greatclaw:
This weapon was such a disappointment... you see the Dragonic Tree Sentinels infusing it with Red Lighting and doing large aoe effects by slamming it to the ground and everything, you know what that reminds me off? the Dragonslayer Armor from DS3, this thing could have been the new Dragonslayer Greataxe, with a Lighting Slam attack, but what we got? freaking Endure... BORING.


Serpent Hunter
The weapon itself is ok, has decent scaling but... the Ash of War, why not do the same has the Stormruler and at least gave it a weaker version of the one we see from the Boss Fight? cause right now, that thing is so freaking slow with short range.

Maybe something similar to the Skill from Moonlight Greatsword in DS3 where it was a Moonlight infused Thrust, could have the spear be infused with wind and have some aoe.

Blade of Calling:
So the issue with this one is the fact that it competes with its dark counterpart the Black Knife, having identical Moveset, similar scaling (Dex/Faith) and Similar Ashes of War, problem, this thing does less dmg in general, i know since i have a build with equal Dex and Faith, and Black Knife does more dmg overall.

Thats pretty much the main issue of this dagger, its weaker dmg wise than Black Knife, it does have a cool variant of the Ash of War rather than applying an HP debuff and Burn effect, it instead knocks down targets and does a lot of stagger, but once again BK ends up doing more dmg overall, just by evening out the dmg a bit would make this Dagger worth picking over BK.

Well those are pretty much the weapons that come to mind at the moment, do you think the same of other weapons?
Last edited by Dollmaker; May 16, 2022 @ 1:56am
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kalashnjkov21 May 16, 2022 @ 2:08am 
Morgott 's curved greatsword: its aow needs a small change, it will be better if we can double tap the aow button to skip running part and attack immediately.
Dollmaker May 16, 2022 @ 2:10am 
Originally posted by kalashnjkov21:
Morgott 's curved greatsword: its aow needs a small change, it will be better if we can double tap the aow button to skip running part and attack immediately.
Wouldn't that make it a bit OP? isnt the Ash a true combo?
Ulmace May 16, 2022 @ 2:23am 
duelists greataxe is awesome, there is plenty of Str scaling axes, but this thing is a bit more dex focussed (rp wise) in the moveset as well compared to other axes.
Its true that because of the high str requirement you might as well make it heavy, unless you go very high level and go quality.
There is only a handfull of heavy weapons with dex scaling, i honestly dont see the issue besides it triggering ocd.
MingQWERTY May 16, 2022 @ 2:27am 
The Dark Moon Greatsword could also use more buffs to it. I'm mostly talking about the tracking of the weapon art and the heavy attack. The tracking is terrible and a slight change in elevation can cause you to miss an attack. And why does the normal heavy attack require me to charge up my sword? It's not buffed with anything so why?

Actually the weapon would really benefit from a buff to the Greatsword class as a whole. Right now they're all so underwhelming except for the Claymore.
Ulmace May 16, 2022 @ 2:32am 
Originally posted by MarkQWERTY:
The Dark Moon Greatsword could also use more buffs to it. I'm mostly talking about the tracking of the weapon art and the heavy attack. The tracking is terrible and a slight change in elevation can cause you to miss an attack. And why does the normal heavy attack require me to charge up my sword? It's not buffed with anything so why?

Actually the weapon would really benefit from a buff to the Greatsword class as a whole. Right now they're all so underwhelming except for the Claymore.

giving the darkmoon greatsword a normal charged attack would be awesome, its the only downside of this weapon imo, but i think it would make it too good
Dollmaker May 16, 2022 @ 2:40am 
Originally posted by MarkQWERTY:
The Dark Moon Greatsword could also use more buffs to it. I'm mostly talking about the tracking of the weapon art and the heavy attack. The tracking is terrible and a slight change in elevation can cause you to miss an attack. And why does the normal heavy attack require me to charge up my sword? It's not buffed with anything so why?

Actually the weapon would really benefit from a buff to the Greatsword class as a whole. Right now they're all so underwhelming except for the Claymore.
Yeah the tracking is atrocious when theres minimal elevation differences but this also applies to other stuff

Also, besides the animation being a bit dramatic the Heavy Attack works fine? never really had an issue with it.
Last edited by Dollmaker; May 16, 2022 @ 2:45am
Dollmaker May 16, 2022 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by Ulmace:
duelists greataxe is awesome, there is plenty of Str scaling axes, but this thing is a bit more dex focussed (rp wise) in the moveset as well compared to other axes.
Its true that because of the high str requirement you might as well make it heavy, unless you go very high level and go quality.
There is only a handfull of heavy weapons with dex scaling, i honestly dont see the issue besides it triggering ocd.
Well the whole point of the heavier weapons is being Str focused while quicker ones are Dex focused, so this axe just comes weird as a result, cause the scaling and requirements are opposites
Last edited by Dollmaker; May 16, 2022 @ 2:42am
Heimdall313 May 16, 2022 @ 2:51am 
Axes. Literally all of them. lol
Ulmace May 16, 2022 @ 2:54am 
Originally posted by Dollmaker:
Originally posted by Ulmace:
duelists greataxe is awesome, there is plenty of Str scaling axes, but this thing is a bit more dex focussed (rp wise) in the moveset as well compared to other axes.
Its true that because of the high str requirement you might as well make it heavy, unless you go very high level and go quality.
There is only a handfull of heavy weapons with dex scaling, i honestly dont see the issue besides it triggering ocd.
Well the whole point of the heavier weapons is being Str focused while quicker ones are Dex focused, so this axe just comes weird as a result, cause the scaling and requirements are opposites
it is indeed different from other heavy weapons, the duelists are very strong and dextrous gladiators so it fits the theme. The weapon moves are also a bit more to the dex weapon side then the brutish swings of other heavy weapons, thats why i love it so much.
Dollmaker May 16, 2022 @ 2:57am 
Originally posted by Ulmace:
Originally posted by Dollmaker:
Well the whole point of the heavier weapons is being Str focused while quicker ones are Dex focused, so this axe just comes weird as a result, cause the scaling and requirements are opposites
it is indeed different from other heavy weapons, the duelists are very strong and dextrous gladiators so it fits the theme. The weapon moves are also a bit more to the dex weapon side then the brutish swings of other heavy weapons, thats why i love it so much.
The moveset is the same has Godfrey's Axe tough, and that man is 100% Str
Last edited by Dollmaker; May 16, 2022 @ 2:57am
Ulmace May 16, 2022 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by Dollmaker:
Originally posted by Ulmace:
it is indeed different from other heavy weapons, the duelists are very strong and dextrous gladiators so it fits the theme. The weapon moves are also a bit more to the dex weapon side then the brutish swings of other heavy weapons, thats why i love it so much.
The moveset is the same has Godfrey's Axe tough, and that man is 100% Str
try powerstancing them
Dollmaker May 16, 2022 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by Ulmace:
Originally posted by Dollmaker:
The moveset is the same has Godfrey's Axe tough, and that man is 100% Str
try powerstancing them
Why? yeah i can powerstance them, but whats your point?
Last edited by Dollmaker; May 16, 2022 @ 12:38pm
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