How much faith do you need for buffs only?

[Bermag]

I am thinking of starting a new charactyer which is melee + some incantation for buffs. How much do you need to spen in faith? Is it just the minimum or does buff scale in strength (also things like heals)?

If it is sclaing then how much is good enough?

[Vix]

I'd say look on the wiki for all of the incantations you want, then only put enough faith in to use the one with the highest requirement. This allows you to use the rest of your stats on other parts of your build. With an upgraded seal, all of the buffs and heals will be good enough.

[Dollmaker]

Pretty sure heal spells do scale with Faith (only flat ones, not over time ones)

The most expensive healing is 42 Faith, being Erdtree Heal.

But if you only want buffs, i think 35 with Protection of the Erdtree.

[Scorp]

If its just the generic buffs (Golden Vow as an example) then as far as I am aware they do not scale with faith in any way or get boosted by any specific seals; however, buffs that would give you a element damage bonus such as Bloodflame Blade, the fire damage it gains is based on faith.

It's hard to say where to go with minimum faith, kinda depends on what buffs you are going to use to be honest, but I would say get 25 minimum faith for golden vow and an assortment of other buffs.

[Seven ate you]

Ignoring buffs that scale with the faith stat itself.

38, 30, 25, 12 and 10 are all the important caps for me.

38 if you want to be have every buff.

30 if you just want all the good buffs.

25 if you want Golden vow + all the other strong buffs 25 faith gets you, like the strongest anti magic damage buff.

10 if you just want the anti elemental buffs with the 12 being that + a health regen buff.

[Kyutaru]

There's tiers of breakdowns for sure. But I'd say if you want absolute physical protection, you need 30 Faith. If you want a hybrid between tank and damage and team buffing and mass elemental resists, you need 25 Faith. If you want just some melee damage buffs, you need 15 Faith minimum.

With just 15 Faith you can already have fabulous buffs like Flame Grant Me Strength, Electrify Armament, Order's Blade, Bestial Vitality, all the basic elemental Fortifications, and still have access to Great Heal and the weaker Dragon Breaths as well as Pest Threads.

[MULTIPASS]

If you're only taking buffs that don't have scaling (no direct heals or weapon buffs):

38 for the best hp regen
30 for Black Flame's Protection
27 for the highest requirement of the elemental damage mitigation spells
25 for golden vow

I'd say 25 if you don't want black flame's protection, or 30 if you do.

Healing and weapon buffs both scale with faith (not strength or arcane, even if your seal does).

[Elazul]

If you're str build then 15 for Flame Grant Me Strength + Bestial Vitality. (Using Clawmark Seal)