Who created the layout of the DLC Map? its horrible

[Armando Broncas]

Not talking about the style or how it looks but navigation, its god awful you never know where the hell you are supposed to go to access a new area, this guys are so damn out of touch seriously they went out of their way to make finding this scadu tree things very obnoxious, once again proving that this guys don't care about fun they just became sadists that enjoy the suffering of their masochist fanatics.

[zmanbuilder]

Was it not obvious that to reach that area you needed to go through that secret cave on the other side of the map?

[ZTL-Altima]

Map is a mess once you need to explore more to try to find places you may have missed. Graces everywhere in crazy and messy places.

[Armando Broncas]

Originally posted by ZTL-Altima:

Map is a mess once you need to explore more to try to find places you may have missed. Graces everywhere in crazy and messy places.

I only needed a guide to reach like 5% of the places in the base game and on this game you need a guide almost for any place.

[m4ko]

100% agreed.

Without youtube / reddit many areas would be permanently unaccessible. Because MULTIPLE of them are hidden SO WELL behind some hidden wall / strange cave / tiny ladder somewhere that you would only find them if you maticulously searched every inch of the map.

And you would always search at the wrong place because on the map it looks like "maybe I could go that route" - only to discover that ACTUALLY there is 100000000000 meter high cliff there that isnt represented in the map at all.

[Dam Stark]

It's their best map ever what are you on? It's a beautiful puzzle. I dont get this "where do i go" Idea. You obviously go everywhere, every single corner of the map is beging for you to explore it. Literally just go everywhere.

[RuleofTwo]

Originally posted by Dam Stark:

It's their best map ever what are you on? It's a beautiful puzzle. I dont get this "where do i go" Idea. You obviously go everywhere, every single corner of the map is beging for you to explore it. Literally just go everywhere.

No. Just make a map that isn't annoying to navigate. Like the base game. Erdtree dlc sucks except for the art design..

[Dam Stark]

Base game map was too simple. Better than other open world games with a permanent quest marker on your screen but dlc map is much more interesting imo.

[Nifty]

I liked it, for first time playthroughs I usually dont use Torrent and just explore on foot

[LuckyCheshire]

It would have been nice if the map had layers like MH:W and some others do. But the base design is perfectly fine, it works quite well. The only place I had to look up how to get to was the secret passage in the Shadow Keep (well, and the passage to the north-east corner, but that was because I missed the emote somehow, not because it wasn't incredibly obvious how to get there).

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Fextralife is your answer.
I recently created a post talking about the same thing.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4406291873011744219/

[Velber]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Fextralife is your answer.
I recently created a post talking about the same thing.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4406291873011744219/

yea the wiki guide is how you have to keep track of everything, otherwise i would have missed out on a lot of stuff even in base game

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Dam Stark:

It's their best map ever what are you on? It's a beautiful puzzle. I dont get this "where do i go" Idea. You obviously go everywhere, every single corner of the map is beging for you to explore it. Literally just go everywhere.

You must enjoy empty corners with just rocks and grass. You have a pretty strange concept of fun.

[AlmaDarkSpell]

Originally posted by Pseudomonarchiadaiymo:

yea the wiki guide is how you have to keep track of everything, otherwise i would have missed out on a lot of stuff even in base game

Believe me I know. Especially the missable quests with no markers. Another obtuse mechanic that Fromsoftware refuses to let go.

[parent child bowl]

Originally posted by AlmaDarkSpell:

Fextralife is your answer.
I recently created a post talking about the same thing.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4406291873011744219/

Fextralife is never the answer to any question.

[Armando Broncas]

Originally posted by m4ko:

100% agreed.

Without youtube / reddit many areas would be permanently unaccessible. Because MULTIPLE of them are hidden SO WELL behind some hidden wall / strange cave / tiny ladder somewhere that you would only find them if you maticulously searched every inch of the map.

And you would always search at the wrong place because on the map it looks like "maybe I could go that route" - only to discover that ACTUALLY there is 100000000000 meter high cliff there that isnt represented in the map at all.

Yeah its absurd how badly designed the map is.