i’m your healer/dps/killer

[†øøts]

had another conversation with some random players irl and it’s the same old thing; either we are worthless or too strong yet unskilled. i’m talkin about magic/faith/sorcery/incant users.

i’m the guy that gets summoned, buffs you, heals you, and also throws out spells to dps. i’m the guy who uses shackles for your own boss and uses my bubble/heal physick on you. great, until you meet us in arena. why the ragequits? isn’t the purpose of a dual to fight?
victory is a result of improvement not a means to it!

i am caster of both magic and faith. i have a specific build for pvp which includes stars/rancor and other spells, and yes i spam a spell if i can tell you cannot deal with it. it is funny to me to watch people dance instead of closing distance. and god forbid we use erdtree heal - that’s not fair!
i think casters are easier to kill than dex or str builds (assuming all players are experienced pvp). i do not understand the hate against mages when 90%, a fake number lol, of people are going to die to melee pokes anyways. i have always played mage and this game gives us viable pvp spells, and as a result we casters flourish. the spam is just for educational purposes tbh. just for example if i realize you can fight me; i use carian slicer, a melee spell or bait them in for melee attacks or arts. sure a lot of us spam spells and if it works then that’s on you. praise the sun, and of course, git gud (i mean that earnestly).

tldr; we help you pve, please fight us lol

[RtG.Nifaxizzi]

What kind of spells are viable in pvp? i mostly play sorcerer and other than the "turn your scepter into a sword" carian spells usually everything else just gets avoided by rolling 10 centimeters to the side.

[†øøts]

Originally posted by RtG.Nifaxizzi:

What kind of spells are viable in pvp? i mostly play sorcerer and other than the "turn your scepter into a sword" carian spells usually everything else just gets avoided by rolling 10 centimeters to the side.

swift flintstone shard is my signature spell. prince of death staff is highest dps even after dlc but you need faith too.

radagon icon is a must for serious pure casters.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

The people who need help in PvE are not doing PvP. The reason people aren't fighting you in PvP is because they want to actually do normal PvP with all of the mechanics involved in it. When you fight a caster it changes into a completely different game where you mostly just spam dodges to avoid all their spells.

Originally posted by RtG.Nifaxizzi:

What kind of spells are viable in pvp? i mostly play sorcerer and other than the "turn your scepter into a sword" carian spells usually everything else just gets avoided by rolling 10 centimeters to the side.

I'll edit this comment with more spells & corrected names later but off the top of my head Bestial Sling, Catch Flame, Stone of Gurranq, the lightning from above & the similar looking miracle, Force, & WotG, are good miracles. Good spells include all the melee ones (carian slicer, greatsword, piercer, that hammer, etc), a simple missile like comet, crystal soulmass, those delayed missiles, the barrage of 3 or 6 missiles, and the mortar.

[†øøts]

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

The people who need help in PvE are not doing PvP. The reason people aren't fighting you in PvP is because they want to actually do normal PvP with all of the mechanics involved in it. When you fight a caster it changes into a completely different game where you mostly just spam dodges to avoid all their spells.

i understand. i also pointed out the ragequits in arena - which is pvp. people will die 3x and dc. if i meet them again they might try a round or two but eventually i never see them again probably because i get blocked.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by †øøts:

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

The people who need help in PvE are not doing PvP. The reason people aren't fighting you in PvP is because they want to actually do normal PvP with all of the mechanics involved in it. When you fight a caster it changes into a completely different game where you mostly just spam dodges to avoid all their spells.

i understand. i also pointed out the ragequits in arena - which is pvp. people will die 3x and dc. if i meet them again they might try a round or two but eventually i never see them again probably because i get blocked.

Idk if you're getting blocked they might be just getting off or you randomly aren't getting them any more.

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

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I'll edit this comment with more spells & corrected names later but off the top of my head Bestial Sling, Catch Flame, Stone of Gurranq, the lightning from above & the similar looking miracle, Force, & WotG, are good miracles. Good spells include all the melee ones (carian slicer, greatsword, piercer, that hammer, etc), a simple missile like comet, crystal soulmass, those delayed missiles, the barrage of 3 or 6 missiles, and the mortar.

Force is Rejection, WotG is Wrath of Gold (lol), the two lightning miracles are Honed Bolt & Lightning Strike, and other good miracles are the various Aspects of the Crucible, Black Blade, Fortisssax's Lightning Spear, Death Lightning (by surprise only), any fireball variants (Flame Sling, Giantsflame Take Thee, Black Flame), Scouring Black Flame, Black Flame Ritual, Swarm of Flies, Bloodflame Talons, Bloodboon, and that Malenia one I don't have (by surprise only).

Crystal Soulmass is Glintblade Phalanx, Carian Phalanx, or Greatblade Phalanx. The delayed missiles are Magic Glintblade & Glintblade Trio. The barrage of missiles are Glintstone Stars & Star Shower. The mortar is Cannon of Haima. Other good sorceries include Loretta's Greatbow, Magic Downpour (kinda), Carian Retaliation, Shard Spiral, Glintstone Arc, the two Briars if you're built for them, and the magma spells.

[†øøts]

for any of my caster sunbros, macarthur has a good list.

i also want to point out spell orders. the way you set your spells can mean life or death, especially if your opponent is good.

for example: ancient rancorall is followed up by carian slicer. most good players realize they have a window to roll forward and beat you up if they get close - you use ancient to pressure them forward and your very next spell is a quick slicer. insane dmg in quick succession. but wait they have heavy poise - put piercer behind slicer to easily switch next - piercer gives you breathing room -and more space than slicer - as they come in but will poise break most if not all people and reset your distance.

or you’re in an elevator or hall, use fia mist to get space, only the experienced players aren’t afraid of death bar because it’s only instant death on full bar obviously. your spell order matters. it’s not like we just spam to win, which often works, but a lot of the times we casters are putting more thought into it than simply sprint, crouch, poke. imo the pokes are more effective because good players know they can trade.

i love all those pvp youtube videos but so much of those successful invasions would be countered by a mage in the party. you can literally babysit a noob with just force, a relatively cheap spell level wise, on a typical elevator ambush.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by †øøts:

for any of my caster sunbros, macarthur has a good list.

i also want to point out spell orders. the way you set your spells can mean life or death, especially if your opponent is good.

Yep, spell order is extremely important since it's a weird one-way cycle thing. I like to put Catch Flame & Bestial Sling in the first two slots since they're the most necessary to quickly have access to. If anyone gets too close I can just hold R to go to the first slot then either cast the first spell or tap R one more time to cast the second. Then after the immediately needed spells like those come the spells at range like Stone of Gurranq & the Lightning ones, then after that at the end of the list is situational rarely used spells like some heal spell, Fortissax's Lightning Spear, Death Lightning, and that one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spell that I forgot to add in my previous list. I think it starts with the word Placidusax or something.

[Nifty]

Originally posted by †øøts:

had another conversation with some random players irl and it’s the same old thing; either we are worthless or too strong yet unskilled. i’m talkin about magic/faith/sorcery/incant users.

i’m the guy that gets summoned, buffs you, heals you, and also throws out spells to dps. i’m the guy who uses shackles for your own boss and uses my bubble/heal physick on you. great, until you meet us in arena. why the ragequits? isn’t the purpose of a dual to fight?
victory is a result of improvement not a means to it!

i am caster of both magic and faith. i have a specific build for pvp which includes stars/rancor and other spells, and yes i spam a spell if i can tell you cannot deal with it. it is funny to me to watch people dance instead of closing distance. and god forbid we use erdtree heal - that’s not fair!
i think casters are easier to kill than dex or str builds (assuming all players are experienced pvp). i do not understand the hate against mages when 90%, a fake number lol, of people are going to die to melee pokes anyways. i have always played mage and this game gives us viable pvp spells, and as a result we casters flourish. the spam is just for educational purposes tbh. just for example if i realize you can fight me; i use carian slicer, a melee spell or bait them in for melee attacks or arts. sure a lot of us spam spells and if it works then that’s on you. praise the sun, and of course, git gud (i mean that earnestly).

tldr; we help you pve, please fight us lol

Healers are exceptionally powerful.

I posted a video lately about a guy who let spirit ashes solo the dlc by spamming full heal spells.