(Spoilers) Shadow Keep Ansbach quest

[Zook the Duke]

(spoilers)
Go to Shadow Keep
Find Ansbach
Ansbach talks about needing to learn something about Mohgwyn
Find a letter on the fourth floor regarding Mohgwyn
Return to Ansbach and give it to him
He Disappears
Find Freyja
Needs Anbach

I'm horribly confused, the quest is softlocked because Ansbach is gone, but Freyja needs him. The wiki said I needed to show her the letter first? Why would she need to see a letter about Mohgwyn.

If there is a solve here please help me understand. I really do not want to have to do another ng+ because of a poorly elaborated questline that leads to two characters being softlocked.

[LuckyCheshire]

It's not well designed, yeah. Check where Ansbach was standing though, a letter may have appeared there. If not, don't be too sad, all you miss is a shield.

[animeproblem]

1. You talk to ansbach in shadow keep
2. You find the secret rite scroll
3. You give the scroll to him
4. Exhaust his dialogue
5. He gives you a letter for Freya
6. You talk to her and give her the letter
7. Exhaust her dialogue

It might glitch if you don't talk to her before giving him the scroll didn't happen for me

rest at a site of grace or fast travel somewhere out of the castle and go back to where he was standing to see if it's there

if it doesn't appear just use an updated cheat engine to add the letter to your inventory and that should set the flags

[Zook the Duke]

Origineel geplaatst door LuckyCheshire:

It's not well designed, yeah. Check where Ansbach was standing though, a letter may have appeared there. If not, don't be too sad, all you miss is a shield.

Thats somewhat a relief to know I'm not losing much from this softlock.

[Toast]

There’s a few ways to go about this.

1. Help Hornsent fight Leda. This should fully unlock Ansbach and Freya’s quest.

Or

2. If Ansbach disappears after giving him the scroll. Defeat Mesmer, go talk to Leda, go back to Ansbach’s location. Help him fight Leda, then get his letter for Freya.

[Zook the Duke]

Origineel geplaatst door animeproblem:

1. You talk to ansbach in shadow keep
2. You find the secret rite scroll
3. You give the scroll to him
4. Exhaust his dialogue
5. He gives you a letter for Freya
6. You talk to her and give her the letter
7. Exhaust her dialogue

It might glitch if you don't talk to her before giving him the scroll didn't happen for me

rest at a site of grace or fast travel somewhere out of the castle and go back to where he was standing to see if it's there

if it doesn't appear just use an updated cheat engine to add the letter to your inventory and that should set the flags

I'll have to resort to Cheat engine. I went back to Ansbachs location on the first floor and nothing is left. This seems to be because of the convoluted chain of events with Leda, Hornsent, Ansbach, and Freyja in Shadowkeep.
Going by the wiki page I was supposed to have a duel between Hornsent and Leda in the main gate. Unfortunately I never saw the invasion summon signs as I passed it before reaching Messmer, Thus softlocking Hornsent to the boss fight which progresses Leda's quest to Ansbachs duel, but since Ansbach has left everything has gone out of form and the whole of Shadow Keeps now out of order.

[Zook the Duke]

Origineel geplaatst door Toast:

There’s a few ways to go about this.

1. Help Hornsent fight Leda. This should fully unlock Ansbach and Freya’s quest.

Or

2. If Ansbach disappears after giving him the scroll. Defeat Mesmer, go talk to Leda, go back to Ansbach’s location. Help him fight Leda, then get his letter for Freya.

Your second option has helped mostly. I have indeed been able to advance the quest after defeating Messmer, being able to duel Leda with Ansbach. But the letter still has not dropped where Ansbach once stood.

[Toast]

Origineel geplaatst door Zook the Duke:

Origineel geplaatst door Toast:

There’s a few ways to go about this.

1. Help Hornsent fight Leda. This should fully unlock Ansbach and Freya’s quest.

Or

2. If Ansbach disappears after giving him the scroll. Defeat Mesmer, go talk to Leda, go back to Ansbach’s location. Help him fight Leda, then get his letter for Freya.

Your second option has helped mostly. I have indeed been able to advance the quest after defeating Messmer, being able to duel Leda with Ansbach. But the letter still has not dropped where Ansbach once stood.

So he doesn’t show up in the over world after the fight? That’s weird. Did you stop progression at Mesmer? Or did you go further and burn the tree?

I’m on sixth play-through. So far the only way I can get his letter for Freya, is to talk to Freya first, go talk to Ansbach.

He will get stuck on the dialogue saying that him and Freya are two sides of the same coin. Even after giving him the scroll. From there I can either help Leda fight Hornsent, or vice versa.

If I help Hornsent, I can advance Ansbachs quest line, if I help Leda, I have to kill Mesmer, then help Ansbach, fight Leda, before he gives me the letter to Freya.

Also not sure if this part matters, but I always enter from the church district. Usually save the golden hippo until after Mesmer is dead.

[Dr.Abscondus]

The duel between Hornsent and Leda doesn't matter. If you skip it no harm is done. Freyja is looking for information on why Kindly what's his face took Mogh's body. The scroll you give Ansbach explains exactly what they want to do with Mohg's body. The letter gives Freyja the info she needs since she is a loyal follower of Mogh, and she isn't down with what is going to happen. So she will help you against Leda and her allies in Enir-Ilim, and after the fight you get all her stuff. If she doesn't get the letter then she doesn't go to help you, but only leaves her shield behind on the seventh floor.
The real purpose of most of these side quests is to recruit allies for the end game fights so you don't have to face Leda and the final boss alone. That's why those fights are hard. The devs figured that players would complete the side quests and show up with lots of help. Judging by people complaining about the final boss, it seems most are showing up alone after having tanked the side quests.

[Toast]

Origineel geplaatst door Dr.Abscondus:

The letter gives Freyja the info she needs since she is a loyal follower of Mogh, and she isn't down with what is going to happen.

Pretty sure you mean Ansbach. When you give Freya the letter she gets excited because she finds out Radahn is going to be resurrected. She was part of the red mane army. She then says she looks forward to meeting us, and Ansbach on the battlefield. Then she gives us her shield.

[LuckyCheshire]

Origineel geplaatst door Dr.Abscondus:

The real purpose of most of these side quests is to recruit allies for the end game fights so you don't have to face Leda and the final boss alone. That's why those fights are hard. The devs figured that players would complete the side quests and show up with lots of help. Judging by people complaining about the final boss, it seems most are showing up alone after having tanked the side quests.

The final boss is actually significantly easier without AI co-op. Ansbach is mediocre, whether he's a net gain is a toss-up. Thioller sucks for that fight though, he's not remotely worth the health/res buff.

[RtG.Nifaxizzi]

Something is kind of wacky with npcs.
I saw a summon sign for one of the night sisters before the double tree sentinel fight but i ended up falling off the cliff there and when i tried to resummon the sign was gone. I also saw one in mesmer's room instead of hornsent.
Too many moving parts maybe?

[LuckyCheshire]

Origineel geplaatst door RtG.Nifaxizzi:

Something is kind of wacky with npcs.
I saw a summon sign for one of the night sisters before the double tree sentinel fight but i ended up falling off the cliff there and when i tried to resummon the sign was gone. I also saw one in mesmer's room instead of hornsent.
Too many moving parts maybe?

In the first case, that was probably a cosplayer.

[doublejesus]

My understanding is if you use the kindling that advances NPC's to their endgame positions so you need to finish up any quest progress before you do that.

[anglblood150]

I am just going back over some things I missed before I take down Consort Radahn, however upon returning to the shadow keep area I cannot find Sir Ansbach. I have not given him the secret rite scroll yet and I have already fought Leda the needle knight. Am I still able to continue from some later point in his questline or is it not possible due to my progession through bosses?