Screw the final boss

[Profile]

I have been running an intelligence build all this time up until now and his phase 2 has broken me, though I've only reached it twice. No running away, no punishing, dodging only saves me half the time. I so want to use a shield but I need to persevere,

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

sadly, the best way to beat him is with a shield and some anti-holy talismans.
oh, and bleeds/rot... lots of that bs will do the trick.

[Chris1]

Has there been any no hit runs of a caster beating the final boss solo? He seems specifically designed to punish you for daring to try to cast any spell that isn't carian slicer.

[zab]

get the teleporting spell so you can dodge all the crazy stuff easy

[(Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr]

After many attempts I managed to beat him with Darkmoon Greatsword Carian Shield and light rolling (Dryleaf set).

I also used Mimic Tear just to try and get through phase 1 faster, though it actually did very little when I won.

[Profile]

Originally posted by zab:

get the teleporting spell so you can dodge all the crazy stuff easy

Miriam vanishing? I always thought that was bad for pve, but I can imagine it if it goes through the holy projectiles

[Profile]

Originally posted by Chris1:

Has there been any no hit runs of a caster beating the final boss solo? He seems specifically designed to punish you for daring to try to cast any spell that isn't carian slicer.

Phase 1 is great for a spellcaster. You can bait out his long combo attacks and pelt him out of range, super fun to play but Phase 2 is just wow

[zab]

Originally posted by Profile:

Originally posted by zab:

get the teleporting spell so you can dodge all the crazy stuff easy

Miriam vanishing? I always thought that was bad for pve, but I can imagine it if it goes through the holy projectiles

you can use it when he does some big attacks and you will just teleport through them, not too bad, at least for bosses

[Figs]

by FAR the most effective is to tank the guy and poke with a thrusting sword or (swift) spear from behind a greatshield. bleed procs and dots will do the job, and your attacking while not taking damage. burn a couple of tears if needs be (one to do it, one to switch back).

aside, he's predictable after a while. you can see this clearly when using the above - because you don't need to focus current time so much to stay alive. i.e. its a good way to learn the fight also.

phase 2 mega aoe? just face towards him and block, rather than trying to run/dodge at impact. MUCH easier. the phase 2 light+sword attacks? blocking, poking (antspur rapier imbued with blood, no arcane invest in my case), and backpedal to the side, you'll avoid the light echoes of his attacks.

i used the haligtree greatshield, it has good holy mitigation. the fingerprint greatshield (tombstone one) is bestest, probably.

double-turtle talisman lets you get back end in gaps of pressure quickly, enough end to make that work plus wear heavier armor.

another way is the thorns spell, but that can go wrong fast on lightly equipped characters. main hand a staff, and wear a shield, use scholars shield.

night claws are effective against him with the WA throw, you can put bleed from range.

but by far, the poke and tank way just works.

[Profile]

Originally posted by Figs:

by FAR the most effective is to tank the guy and poke with a thrusting sword or (swift) spear from behind a greatshield. bleed procs and dots will do the job, and your attacking while not taking damage. burn a couple of tears if needs be (one to do it, one to switch back).

aside, he's predictable after a while. you can see this clearly when using the above - because you don't need to focus current time so much to stay alive. i.e. its a good way to learn the fight also.

phase 2 mega aoe? just face towards him and block, rather than trying to run/dodge at impact. MUCH easier. the phase 2 light+sword attacks? blocking, poking (antspur rapier imbued with blood, no arcane invest in my case), and backpedal to the side, you'll avoid the light echoes of his attacks.

i used the haligtree greatshield, it has good holy mitigation. the fingerprint greatshield (tombstone one) is bestest, probably.

double-turtle talisman lets you get back end in gaps of pressure quickly, enough end to make that work plus wear heavier armor.

another way is the thorns spell, but that can go wrong fast on lightly equipped characters. main hand a staff, and wear a shield, use scholars shield.

night claws are effective against him with the WA throw, you can put bleed from range.

but by far, the poke and tank way just works.

I can't believe how effective the shield is. I haven't used blocking once my entire play through and now I feel like blocking is cheating, lol

[Ω Arkandor]

Just end him with a shield. This poor excuse of a Boss isnt worth the mental pain, Go ahead and end this cheap piece of garbage with a good shield and antspur or bleed naginata.

[Knavenformed]

Originally posted by Archdeacon Monseigneur:

oh, and bleeds/rot... lots of that bs will do the trick.

Yeah bleeds make the DLC bearable for a melee run
Once I saw my damage jump to 3k with a bleed R1 it was over for any interest in a quality build, no way they can pull off thousands of bonus damage out their ass like that
And occult scaling without bleed is still very good.

[SolusiRadikal]

Originally posted by Archdeacon Monseigneur:

sadly, the best way to beat him is with a shield and some anti-holy talismans.
oh, and bleeds/rot... lots of that bs will do the trick.

1. 3 second build do exist (should only work on NG
2. DLC Golem Ashes should do well
3. Weapon with good stance dmg also can stagger mr.Rajh easily
4. Impenetrable Thorn!!!!
5. learn sword pattern, also just change dodge direction everytime when the big start floating around while hitting you with his clone

[Profile]

I ended up beating him! I kind of expected more from the ending but the satisfaction is enough of a reward I guess?

I had to poke and tank him. I don't think the boss is that bad in his phase 1, I just hate how his phase 2 forced me into making a new build, and the shield just tanks all damage making it easier than even soldier of Godrick. Have shields always been this good throughout the base game? It doesn't even feel fair