Question about the end of the DLC (spoilers)

[Nefarious Slurp]

So I get GRRM wrote the plot sorta. They confirmed that Miquella was indeed male. And he had the hots for radahn. So we now have a incest thing going between them since they are siblings, what with radagon and marika sharing the same body. So, why would they ruin radahns captain america image with him being, well, a pedo. Miquella is cursed with eternal youth, sure hes old, but the body of a child is a body of a child, and so far, every lord and god have kids according to the plot....

Dunno, for some reason this really bothered me.

Not trolling or rage baiting, trying to find some positive here. Because they totally jacked up this DLC by having Surprise radahn as the final boss instead of the big build up boss Messmer.

[zab]

Miquella brainwashed Radahn into becoming his consort

[hemorrhage911]

Consort doesn't mean sexual in this context. However, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that is how Martin outlined it and this was Fromsoftwares soft and ambiguous way of putting that in the game.

[Nefarious Slurp]

Originally posted by hemorrhage911:

Consort doesn't mean sexual in this context. However, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that is how Martin outlined it and this was Fromsoftwares soft and ambiguous way of putting that in the game.

well if we use every other consort as a standard yeah its sexual. marika and godfry, marika with herself as radagon.....kids, kids, and more jacked up kids.

[mayhem523]

Originally posted by hemorrhage911:

Consort doesn't mean sexual in this context.

I keep hearing this, how is this known? Is there some item description or something somewhere that says Radahn isn't plowing Miquella?

[Fenix]

Consort doesn't Necessarily mean lover or spouse, it can yes. I could summon you to my game to beat a boss and you are my Consort, My partner for the fight.... that has zero sexually component, at all.
It was left ambiguous, enough to go either way.
Most people get this wrong, P3dophilla is the Sexual Attraction to Minor that hasn't hit puberty yet... so 10 or less
Hebephilia is 11-14
Ephebophilia is 15-19

[chrstnmonks]

Evidently Radahn had promised he would be Miquelle consort at some point. The fact that Miquelle not only has the body of a 12 year old boy but also sounds like one. It's egregious to say the least. Also the incest thing was quite enough with mogh/miquelle

[hemorrhage911]

Originally posted by mayhem523:

Originally posted by hemorrhage911:

Consort doesn't mean sexual in this context.

I keep hearing this, how is this known? Is there some item description or something somewhere that says Radahn isn't plowing Miquella?

There is no indication Radahn is at all even hinted at doing anything sexual....with a literal child and a blood relative.

Also a companionship happening for a political move or bringing together power isn't unheard of, not even in the real world. All we know is Radahn was strong and kind and Miquella thought fondly of him and that is why he chose him as a consort.

[Nefarious Slurp]

Originally posted by Fenix:

Consort doesn't Necessarily mean lover or spouse, it can yes. I could summon you to my game to beat a boss and you are my Consort, My partner for the fight.... that has zero sexually component, at all.
It was left ambiguous, enough to go either way.
Most people get this wrong, P3dophilla is the Sexual Attraction to Minor that hasn't hit puberty yet... so 10 or less
Hebephilia is 11-14
Ephebophilia is 15-19

yah but miquella is forever trapped in the body of a child, which he still is in the game. And given the other consorts, yes its sexual. Thats why I am bothered. IF you stick your head under a rock, it wont ruin your immersion sure, but its still there.

[hemorrhage911]

Originally posted by Twizler Snits:

Originally posted by hemorrhage911:

Consort doesn't mean sexual in this context. However, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that is how Martin outlined it and this was Fromsoftwares soft and ambiguous way of putting that in the game.

well if we use every other consort as a standard yeah its sexual. marika and godfry, marika with herself as radagon.....kids, kids, and more jacked up kids.

No, it doesn't need to be sexual. We know there are children in the lands between NOT created through sex. Some come from golden eggs, others drop from plants. There is more indication children are created by other means than there evidence of sexual activity.

Also, not entirely sure how the tarnished and Ranni will get it on. She's a doll and will be ascending if you choose her ending.

[mayhem523]

Miquella is a little pedo succubus change my mind.

[Nefarious Slurp]

Originally posted by hemorrhage911:

Originally posted by Twizler Snits:

well if we use every other consort as a standard yeah its sexual. marika and godfry, marika with herself as radagon.....kids, kids, and more jacked up kids.

No, it doesn't need to be sexual. We know there are children in the lands between NOT created through sex. Some come from golden eggs, others drop from plants. There is more indication children are created by other means than there evidence of sexual activity.

Also, not entirely sure how the tarnished and Ranni will get it on. She's a doll and will be ascending if you choose her ending.

you really need to see the final boss cutscene again...♥♥♥♥♥ gross af

[River Victor]

Mickey is not as good an angel as you think. Mogh thought he got Mickey by kidnapping him, but most likely, he was used by Mickey. Mickey's items has mainly two abilities: compel/brainwash people to love you, or put them to sleep. You can guess what Mickey himself has as the main ability. You see it yourself as you fight them. That's why people are so devoted.

Mogh's obsession is easily explained here. He was used as a protector while Malenia is sent to get Radahn.

Radahn must've refused to do it with Mickey, or there would've been no fights between Malenia and the Rad Chad. Instead, Rad would've joined Mickey willingly if he was into Mickey, but no.

Then came you, and you put Radahn and Mogh out of misery. This is REQUIRED to progress the story. Mickey could obtain neither the vessel for Radahn or his actual soul, as it was trapped in the mindless wandering hulk.

Do note also that in the Fissure quest to meet St. Trina, the main thing Mickey cast aside there is his LOVE. Even the ghost of a devotee there thought Mickey has gone too far. He wanted the Age of Compassion, but what you'll get is the Age of Control, as everyone loves him, but he loves no one.

If love is compelled, it's not true love. It's brainwashing. Mogh and Radahn are victims, not perpetrators. You can argue that Mogh got outsmarted, but Radahn definitely was mind r*p*d.

[BingusDingus]

Think of it like a person with dwarfism having the hots for someone with gigantism, massive size difference, but otherwise there's nothing wrong with it. He's not a child, and he's not even human, he's a demi-god.

If the size difference is what bothers you, in the final fight he's almost the same size as Radahn.

[Eren Jäger]

The relationship is not based on sex.

[Nefarious Slurp]

Originally posted by Eren Jäger:

The relationship is not based on sex.

name one instance of a God and Lord in eldne ring that isnt Ill wait.