People Might Be Bad At Making Optimal DLC Builds

[Nifty]

So many things in this game do insane dmg now after 10 fragments.

Charged fireball 3k
Comet 3k
Glintstone breath 1k per tick
Charged hammer throw 3k
Bleed proc 10% hp (nerfed for dlc?)
Stagger critical (a boatload)

Every single build in Elden Ring that is properly optimized for endgame is strong now.

It used to be shard of Alexander plus ash of war spam was basically the game.

But honestly you might find that the game has essentially expanded far beyond that to include greatshields, double bonks, throwing weapons, optimal spells, etc.

[Israelis againts usury]

the average westerner has been dumbed down by modern western AAA titles, ofcourse they are bad at making builds in a game made for and by people with the average IQ of 105+

[zab]

metaslaving is the opposite of fun

[Wolpertinger]

Originally posted by zab:

metaslaving is the opposite of fun

is it really metaslaving any more when there's such a large number of options that work - all it requires is you to swap stuff around a bit until you find something that works for either your playstyle or the boss you're fighting.

[Nauct]

RL1 Red-Feathered Branch + Shriek of Sorrow, couple other buffs, my Great Katana Charged R2 doing 4721 vs Messmer. People just gotta learn to stack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnQUz9mJvrY

[Jeny]

I breeze through the DLC by using Impaling Thrust and shard of alexander, on a big weapon for maximum stagger damage, usually 3-4 L2 was enough for a crit

[Knavenformed]

Originally posted by Nifty:

It used to be shard of Alexander plus ash of war spam was basically the game.

I've yet to really find a comfortable to use Ash of War to "spam" through the game
I'm just so used to quality/occult physical stats that any compromise to health/melee damage just doesn't seem worth it outside spells

Sure Takers Flames makes things easy, but inefficient outside dunking on Malenia.

Maybe now with FP regen on an amulet the spamming becomes more valid since the Mind stat is more or less irrelevant.

[Nauct]

Originally posted by Knavenformed:

Originally posted by Nifty:

It used to be shard of Alexander plus ash of war spam was basically the game.

I've yet to really find a comfortable to use Ash of War to "spam" through the game
I'm just so used to quality/occult physical stats that any compromise to health/melee damage just doesn't seem worth it outside spells

Sure Takers Flames makes things easy, but inefficient outside dunking on Malenia.

Maybe now with FP regen on an amulet the spamming becomes more valid since the Mind stat is more or less irrelevant.

I saw a Vtuber beat every boss in the game, including Radahn, just spamming giant hunt on "Greatsword" and occasionally dodging attacks

[Toast]

I’m a simple creature. Give me a big weapon, so I can bonk. Can’t be bothered to use buffs.

[chima]

Do you people actually enjoy playing the game like this? I can understand it if you're trying to speedrun the game where the point is to beat it as fast as possible, but if you're not doing that then what's the point?

[Nifty]

Originally posted by Nauct:

RL1 Red-Feathered Branch + Shriek of Sorrow, couple other buffs, my Great Katana Charged R2 doing 4721 vs Messmer. People just gotta learn to stack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnQUz9mJvrY

Yeah that is low life one touch scaling for 4.5 k. But even full health scaling at 3k is plenty.

[Knavenformed]

Originally posted by Nauct:

I saw a Vtuber beat every boss in the game, including Radahn, just spamming giant hunt on "Greatsword" and occasionally dodging attacks

Haven't tried it on a quality build
Though on my Occult Halberd main it's a DPS loss

The humanoid hurling aspect of it is really nice for safety though

[Nauct]

Originally posted by chima:

Do you people actually enjoy playing the game like this? I can understand it if you're trying to speedrun the game where the point is to beat it as fast as possible, but if you're not doing that then what's the point?

Like what? Experimenting to see how big of a number we can get? Yes. Do I also like trying bosses at RL1 or with a +0 weapon, yes. Whatever I find fun in the moment amigo

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by Nifty:

It used to be shard of Alexander plus ash of war spam was basically the game.

Still is, mate. I went through the DLC spamming Waves of Gold. All the stuff people complained about was just deleted.

Normal enemies? One shot. Elite enemies? Staggered and two shot. Fire Knights? Repeatedly knocked down and three shot.

Even the bosses are easy because you don't have to get into melee with them. Rellana? Stagger broken from afar. Messmer? Set up the damage wave then dodge his attacks. All those humanoid invaders in the mausoleums? They can't stand up without being knocked back down. Uber Divine Lion? One shot killed all his frog friends while just normal DPSing.

Even works great on Bayle. He's constantly moving around the arena so it's annoying to get close to him. But the Waves of Gold just traverse half the arena and reach him anyway. PC Raddy? Well, he's probably not ideal for it in a 1v1. But it's great for supporting other people on their own attempts. For your run, Rivers of Blood works well with the same setup because the skill does so much damage on its own even independent of the bleed procs.

Then we have stuff like the new Twin Greatswords you get from the remembrance. Moonveil has nothing on these.

[Nauct]

Originally posted by Nifty:

Originally posted by Nauct:

RL1 Red-Feathered Branch + Shriek of Sorrow, couple other buffs, my Great Katana Charged R2 doing 4721 vs Messmer. People just gotta learn to stack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnQUz9mJvrY

Yeah that is low life one touch scaling for 4.5 k. But even full health scaling at 3k is plenty.

I was so surprised how high I got that damage. When I did it on my 200+ I wasn't even doing 3k with a charged

[Nifty]

Originally posted by Nauct:

Originally posted by Nifty:

Yeah that is low life one touch scaling for 4.5 k. But even full health scaling at 3k is plenty.

I was so surprised how high I got that damage. When I did it on my 200+ I wasn't even doing 3k with a charged

It's just about your stacking options.

A Smith hammer gets Smith talisman, axe talisman, elemental talisman, two hand talisman.

10%+10%+12%+15% = 47%

Then you have your two tears on top of it.

Sure 3k easy.