Bosses do not scale with player level in DLC

[Sonnenbank]

Just want to clear this missinformation up.

I have seen many level 713 players claim that they got no advantage since bosses do scale
with player level in DLC.

I was very surprised about this information since the base game is completely different and i cant find anything in official patch notes.

It seems some players misunderstood a miazaki interview about Sadutree leveling system.

So i put it to the test.

I used cheat engine to build 2 chars.

1 level 250
2 level 450

i pumped the 450 one all in useless stats like mind and intelligence with a strengtth build.

I locked Rellana into place with cheat engine so she could not move and not damage me.

i poked r1 with both chars.

Results:
Exact same damage numbers and exact same health bar loss of boss
So no the boss neither had more HP nor did he take less damage on my level 450 char.
It did not scale at all.

Plz stopp spreading missinformation !
thank you

[LuckyCheshire]

I've seen some weird claims about the DLC, but not that particular one actually. Thanks for actually testing it in a controlled environment though, the misinformation flying around is rather irritating.

[Krazy Wallet]

He admitted to cheating! Get em boys!!!!

Edit: have an award for being a one of the good ones

[LoVeSuns]

How does NG+ level affect the enemies. Could you test that, please?

[Sonnenbank]

Originally posted by LoVeSuns:

How does NG+ level affect the enemies. Could you test that, please?

you dont need to test that since its written inside the game files for everyone to see
once you use a tool like yapped

i am sure the info is on fextralife

[Vote Quimby]

Holy cow lvl713

[Midnight]

Scadutree blessing level does carry over to NG+ .
So I wonder if the DLC in NG+ is tuned with the expectation that you're already close to maxed on those.

Which would explain why even high levels on a first run through DLC on NG+ could get destroyed by mobs.

[Sonnenbank]

Originally posted by LuckyCheshire:

I've seen some weird claims about the DLC, but not that particular one actually. Thanks for actually testing it in a controlled environment though, the misinformation flying around is rather irritating. :er_heart:

i have seen this claim be made by several youtubers and also here in this forum.
All of them were level 713 and claimed it didnt give them any advantage since the bosses scaled with them

[Chris1]

I think FromSoft messaging on this has been really terrible. They kept saying "they wanted to give higher level players a challenge and that's why they introduced scadutree fragments" - so many people interpreted this to mean "the game scales the higher your level".

This got people thinking that actually leveling up is some kind of disadvantage in the game, but the reality is, leveling up is always an advantage, no matter what. You increase your level, the game gets easier, period. You stay at a lower level, the game is harder, no matter what.

[Fineous🔥]

Hmmm is this a sincere honest to god testing penguin? Be frank....

[LoVeSuns]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

Originally posted by LoVeSuns:

How does NG+ level affect the enemies. Could you test that, please?

you dont need to test that since its written inside the game files for everyone to see
once you use a tool like yapped

i am sure the info is on fextralife

I haven't seen any source confirming how NG+ affects DLC enemies. I don't see the info on fextralife.

[Fripposo]

wait, but if u dealt the same amount of dmg with a rl 250 and with a 450, does that mean that ur char doesnt scaled either? weird.. still a ♥♥♥♥ to me haha

[WOKEGOD]

Sound like they didn't do the scaling as close as claimed. So x2 x3 the average level and you'll grasp the difference.

[LuckyCheshire]

Originally posted by Fripposo:

wait, but if u dealt the same amount of dmg with a rl 250 and with a 450, does that mean that ur char doesnt scaled either? weird.. still a ♥♥♥♥ to me haha

Read all the way through. The extra levels were put into useless stats like Mind and Int.

[Fripposo]

or to say it in other words, bosses DO actually scale since u are dealing same dmg with a higher lvl char

[LoVeSuns]

Originally posted by Fripposo:

wait, but if u dealt the same amount of dmg with a rl 250 and with a 450, does that mean that ur char doesnt scaled either? weird.. still a ♥♥♥♥ to me haha

He said he put the 450's stats into stats that wouldn't increase damage.