The DLC is bad

[WANGNUNOIT]

Before people call me something like "unskilled" or "noob" or simply tell me to get better at the game:

I played through every souls title, have beaten sekiro, am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on. So im very confident in calling myself a good enough gamer.

And despite being good in video games, this dlc is crushing me mentally.

This dlc is not fun to play.

First point: These furnace golem things are a pain in the ass. It takes 10 years to stagger and kill while if you do a SINGLE mistake you get oneshotted. Then theres one of these furnace golems that has probably the dumbest gimmick ive seen in all souls like games. Jumping high up and throwing pots into his head??? Im appreciating fromsoft for trying to get some unique gimmicks into a fight, but why do it on an enemy that we have seen already multiple times + make it so unbelievebly boring/time consuming?

But the furnace golems are only a small part of the problem because every single boss ive encountered so far is annoying to deal with.

Second point: I came so close to beating this lionhead monster without summons but then died to random AoE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This fight is just unfair in every aspect. He is aggressive, he has tons of AoE attacks, he is big so if u stay in him to attack him, sometimes u just dont see his attacks coming. Also when he does his AoE spin attack where he spins around clockwise and does this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ smoke ♥♥♥♥ you can simply just dodge to the right (counter-clockwise) so it doesnt hit you. But theres a problem!!! If he does this attack while u stay in him or next to him, he is so big that u cant even see where his mouth is so you cant possibly know when he is about to hit u with that attack. But thats not all haha! IF YOU STAY IN HIM HE IS SO BIG HE FORCIBLY MOVES U CLOCKWISE WITH HIM SO U CANT EVEN DODGE THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ATTACK. I died so many times because i played correctly but he randomy decided to do this smoke spin attack and I was close to him so he just moved my character with him clockwise so I literally cannot dodge it.

and dont get me started on rellana or whatever her name was. Infinite stamina, no room to heal or go into neutral position. Relentless attacks non stop. Fun fight. Great.

Third point: They have to tune down the scaling of thse enemies. I'm in NG+3 and Level 300 (I grinded some levels to be able to use every weapon I get from the dlc without having to change my stats with a larvar tear) but even with that high of a level, I get two shotted or even one shotted. Rellanas big magic sword AoE attack just one shots me XD? The furnace golem one shots me XD? If I get grabbed once i get one shotted XD? It's really not fun to play when you go into a bossfights just to die after a few seconds because u did ONE SMALL MISTAKE. Yes bro, my bad for trying to heal myself after i got touched once from an attack so now im half HP so im forced to heal because i cant withstand TWO attacks and the second i try to heal, the enemy runs at me and gapcloses from the other end of the map and keeps attacking me with no stop to it.

Fourth point: Ah and also the performence is utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ for the most part. Its so disgusting-bad its worse than when elden ring first released (Im playing on PC).

So far the only good thing about this dlc are the aesthetics. It looks beautiful and the new weapons/equipment does too. (Also the dlc is very lenghty, but thats what i expected from a 40$ dlc for a game that has a basegame of 150+ hours)

For the people who disagree with me, please tell me what exactly you are doing to have any fun in the bossfights. Using summons is simply not fun, because then it gets too easy/cheesy because I just stay behind and throw magic at the boss while i'm not allowed to get any closer anyways due to every boss having 10000000 AoE attacks.

I think this is my first time ever complaining about difficulty in souls-games. After playing through almost every fromsoft title and even playing games like lies of p (really good soulslike game, highly recommend!) I never even ONCE complained about difficulty. But this dlc is cancer.

[duck_dodgers]

Originally posted by Slatepaws:

Yea it's bad.
Fromsoft was making ac6 and the demon souls remaster for consoles at the same time this was being made. So it was most likely given to their interns to do or bandi-namco. I lean to the last one because of the lore.

FromSoft never made the Demon Souls remake.

[Sgt. Flaw]

Originally posted by duck_dodgers:

Originally posted by Slatepaws:

Yea it's bad.
Fromsoft was making ac6 and the demon souls remaster for consoles at the same time this was being made. So it was most likely given to their interns to do or bandi-namco. I lean to the last one because of the lore.

FromSoft never made the Demon Souls remake.

This forums filled with so many trash takes...

[BubonicDuck]

Originally posted by Echorion:

ps: if the furnace dudes one shot you, then you need more vigor. They usually knocked me off torrent with one direct hit or two partial hits; and then I could survive a couple hits at least so long as I didn't get like -directly- stomped on.
My vigor was like 53; you should aim for 60 ideally for the DLC I feel.

Yup, my vigor is at 40 and without the flame shield talismans the fire stomp was only knocking off about 70% of my HP bar.

[ajmofo]

I was having very little fun on ng++ because the damage scaling is huge. 3 toons on ng++ and up all got murdered. Now on my 2nd playthrpugh on ng and it's pretty chill tbh. First playthrough was my tank greatshield/lance str build. Made the game laughable. Now on a dual wield dex bleed build also stomping everything. I'd say stop playing in ng3 and go on a different character with a different build in normal game and it won't suck as much.

[frantsel]

The difficulty isnt even that bad.

Whats really bad are the quest.

They give me instant cancer, even with guide.
This is not good gamedesign. Its so bad and its bad since I demon souls.

I simply feel no enjoyment at all doing the quests. Im not even interested in the npcs because its so stressful.

Gameplay feels old. It is the same now for over a decade, with just tweaks.

I played every from soft game since demon souls on the ps3 and I think this is my last one.

Dont get me wrong, the worlddesign is amazing and some bosses are very cool and fun to fight.

But thats not enough for me. I better put my time somewhere else.

[John Titor]

Originally posted by WANGNUNOIT:

The DLC is bad

Well WANG, can I call you WANG? Thanks. Well WANG, some people are short on skill and just don't have the stamina to last a long time in the BBC... sorry, I mean DLC. Perhaps some kind of supplement could aid you in these trying times. I hope that helps WANG.

[Franklin]

Originally posted by WANGNUNOIT:

Before people call me something like "unskilled" or "noob" or simply tell me to get better at the game:

I played through every souls title, have beaten sekiro, am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on. So im very confident in calling myself a good enough gamer.

And despite being good in video games, this dlc is crushing me mentally.

This dlc is not fun to play.

First point: These furnace golem things are a pain in the ass. It takes 10 years to stagger and kill while if you do a SINGLE mistake you get oneshotted. Then theres one of these furnace golems that has probably the dumbest gimmick ive seen in all souls like games. Jumping high up and throwing pots into his head??? Im appreciating fromsoft for trying to get some unique gimmicks into a fight, but why do it on an enemy that we have seen already multiple times + make it so unbelievebly boring/time consuming?

But the furnace golems are only a small part of the problem because every single boss ive encountered so far is annoying to deal with.

Second point: I came so close to beating this lionhead monster without summons but then died to random AoE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This fight is just unfair in every aspect. He is aggressive, he has tons of AoE attacks, he is big so if u stay in him to attack him, sometimes u just dont see his attacks coming. Also when he does his AoE spin attack where he spins around clockwise and does this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ smoke ♥♥♥♥ you can simply just dodge to the right (counter-clockwise) so it doesnt hit you. But theres a problem!!! If he does this attack while u stay in him or next to him, he is so big that u cant even see where his mouth is so you cant possibly know when he is about to hit u with that attack. But thats not all haha! IF YOU STAY IN HIM HE IS SO BIG HE FORCIBLY MOVES U CLOCKWISE WITH HIM SO U CANT EVEN DODGE THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ATTACK. I died so many times because i played correctly but he randomy decided to do this smoke spin attack and I was close to him so he just moved my character with him clockwise so I literally cannot dodge it.

and dont get me started on rellana or whatever her name was. Infinite stamina, no room to heal or go into neutral position. Relentless attacks non stop. Fun fight. Great.

Third point: They have to tune down the scaling of thse enemies. I'm in NG+3 and Level 300 (I grinded some levels to be able to use every weapon I get from the dlc without having to change my stats with a larvar tear) but even with that high of a level, I get two shotted or even one shotted. Rellanas big magic sword AoE attack just one shots me XD? The furnace golem one shots me XD? If I get grabbed once i get one shotted XD? It's really not fun to play when you go into a bossfights just to die after a few seconds because u did ONE SMALL MISTAKE. Yes bro, my bad for trying to heal myself after i got touched once from an attack so now im half HP so im forced to heal because i cant withstand TWO attacks and the second i try to heal, the enemy runs at me and gapcloses from the other end of the map and keeps attacking me with no stop to it.

Fourth point: Ah and also the performence is utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ for the most part. Its so disgusting-bad its worse than when elden ring first released (Im playing on PC).

So far the only good thing about this dlc are the aesthetics. It looks beautiful and the new weapons/equipment does too. (Also the dlc is very lenghty, but thats what i expected from a 40$ dlc for a game that has a basegame of 150+ hours)

For the people who disagree with me, please tell me what exactly you are doing to have any fun in the bossfights. Using summons is simply not fun, because then it gets too easy/cheesy because I just stay behind and throw magic at the boss while i'm not allowed to get any closer anyways due to every boss having 10000000 AoE attacks.

I think this is my first time ever complaining about difficulty in souls-games. After playing through almost every fromsoft title and even playing games like lies of p (really good soulslike game, highly recommend!) I never even ONCE complained about difficulty. But this dlc is cancer.

Sh-sh-sh-shut the ♥♥♥♥ up. I ain't readin' allat.

[caxshen]

as a veteran soul-like gamer like me who can lvl 1 no damage beating tree sentinel and fight malenia without armor and summon. i can safely say some of the enemy in this DLC were poorly design and some very stupid placement of the enemy. taylew's ruined forge for an example. they placed a stone enemy that able to throw stone at me to 2 shot me with a fire slime that also able to shoot me from afar in a rather small room. doesn't make a single sense and doesn't make the fight exciting either. i'm bored pretty fast when i have deal with messmer soldier with 1000 poise and able to 2 shot me non stop. the whole experience is suck.

[caxshen]

man , this DLC is just very bad balance. they have the twisted mindset about: "oh this is DLC , it supposed to be hard ,and it supposed to be have some absurd enemy that throw combo like no tomorrow. there's balance though , usually their health pool is very low." but they're able to 2 shot you even with some of the scadutree fragment lol.

"oh people hate bird because they're hard to dodge. let's put even more bird in DLC that able to chain 5 hit and hit through the guard even by blocking. oh people might criticize us again boss being too easy so let us put more bosses with absurd AOE that impossible to dodge. they have to light roll most of the boss lol. those stupid STR or caster gamers just can't get it right."

yeah , miyazaki better show us his counter play otherwise he just a clown that love to see player suffer. dodge lag, cluttered environment that have you stuck all the time, laughable M+K lock on system that bind to mouse movement. all these technical issue haven't been fix yet. challenge my ass.

[Johnnie Walker]

nooob

[caxshen]

Originally posted by - EMPTY -:

The game only ask one thing from you since demon souls : Roll. Git gud

in a game that encourage you to cheese enemy with unga bunga build? yeah tons of messmer soldier that spam poise and able to two shot player by stomp? i'm sure this is not git gud issue keep your salt.

[Chimp Wrangler]

bro the whole game is bad

[Chimp Wrangler]

Originally posted by Chimp Wrangler:

bro the whole game is bad

people be like the game is fun you just need to spam doge roll 100000 times in a boss fight = being good

[caxshen]

Originally posted by Chimp Wrangler:

Originally posted by Chimp Wrangler:

bro the whole game is bad

people be like the game is fun you just need to spam doge roll 100000 times in a boss fight = being good

not only need to spam rolling , you would need to light roll through many of the insane AOE. elden ring fans: that's the difficulty , git gud or scram!
me: what's the purpose of different build if player were forced to ligh troll just to survive?
elden ring fans: .....

[Atlas]

A crybaby post by a crybaby. Just complaint about difficult, so pathetic.

I end the dlc before the nerf with my lvl 200 and, it's not so hard if you have scadutree blessing.

It's because of gamers like you that developers nerf games when there's no need to.
So instead of crying like a little girl, adapt your build, explore to find the scadutree and stop crying.