The DLC is bad

[WANGNUNOIT]

Before people call me something like "unskilled" or "noob" or simply tell me to get better at the game:

I played through every souls title, have beaten sekiro, am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on. So im very confident in calling myself a good enough gamer.

And despite being good in video games, this dlc is crushing me mentally.

This dlc is not fun to play.

First point: These furnace golem things are a pain in the ass. It takes 10 years to stagger and kill while if you do a SINGLE mistake you get oneshotted. Then theres one of these furnace golems that has probably the dumbest gimmick ive seen in all souls like games. Jumping high up and throwing pots into his head??? Im appreciating fromsoft for trying to get some unique gimmicks into a fight, but why do it on an enemy that we have seen already multiple times + make it so unbelievebly boring/time consuming?

But the furnace golems are only a small part of the problem because every single boss ive encountered so far is annoying to deal with.

Second point: I came so close to beating this lionhead monster without summons but then died to random AoE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This fight is just unfair in every aspect. He is aggressive, he has tons of AoE attacks, he is big so if u stay in him to attack him, sometimes u just dont see his attacks coming. Also when he does his AoE spin attack where he spins around clockwise and does this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ smoke ♥♥♥♥ you can simply just dodge to the right (counter-clockwise) so it doesnt hit you. But theres a problem!!! If he does this attack while u stay in him or next to him, he is so big that u cant even see where his mouth is so you cant possibly know when he is about to hit u with that attack. But thats not all haha! IF YOU STAY IN HIM HE IS SO BIG HE FORCIBLY MOVES U CLOCKWISE WITH HIM SO U CANT EVEN DODGE THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ATTACK. I died so many times because i played correctly but he randomy decided to do this smoke spin attack and I was close to him so he just moved my character with him clockwise so I literally cannot dodge it.

and dont get me started on rellana or whatever her name was. Infinite stamina, no room to heal or go into neutral position. Relentless attacks non stop. Fun fight. Great.

Third point: They have to tune down the scaling of thse enemies. I'm in NG+3 and Level 300 (I grinded some levels to be able to use every weapon I get from the dlc without having to change my stats with a larvar tear) but even with that high of a level, I get two shotted or even one shotted. Rellanas big magic sword AoE attack just one shots me XD? The furnace golem one shots me XD? If I get grabbed once i get one shotted XD? It's really not fun to play when you go into a bossfights just to die after a few seconds because u did ONE SMALL MISTAKE. Yes bro, my bad for trying to heal myself after i got touched once from an attack so now im half HP so im forced to heal because i cant withstand TWO attacks and the second i try to heal, the enemy runs at me and gapcloses from the other end of the map and keeps attacking me with no stop to it.

Fourth point: Ah and also the performence is utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ for the most part. Its so disgusting-bad its worse than when elden ring first released (Im playing on PC).

So far the only good thing about this dlc are the aesthetics. It looks beautiful and the new weapons/equipment does too. (Also the dlc is very lenghty, but thats what i expected from a 40$ dlc for a game that has a basegame of 150+ hours)

For the people who disagree with me, please tell me what exactly you are doing to have any fun in the bossfights. Using summons is simply not fun, because then it gets too easy/cheesy because I just stay behind and throw magic at the boss while i'm not allowed to get any closer anyways due to every boss having 10000000 AoE attacks.

I think this is my first time ever complaining about difficulty in souls-games. After playing through almost every fromsoft title and even playing games like lies of p (really good soulslike game, highly recommend!) I never even ONCE complained about difficulty. But this dlc is cancer.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by hemorrhage911:

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[ShatteredPumpkin]

already stopped reading after the cringe line:
am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on

Bro only cause you are good in other games doesnt make you a pro at everything xD whats next you are good in minecraft bedwars and tetris? bruh who cares? being good at many games doesnt make you a legend in every game that not how life works

[zmanbuilder]

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

already stopped reading after the cringe line:
am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on

Bro only cause you are good in other games doesnt make you a pro at everything xD whats next you are good in minecraft bedwars and tetris? bruh who cares? being good at many games doesnt make you a legend in every game that not how life works :wowsfishpalm:

I can make i great baked spaghetti yet i find the dlc hard. It makes no sense.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

already stopped reading after the cringe line:
am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on

Bro only cause you are good in other games doesnt make you a pro at everything xD whats next you are good in minecraft bedwars and tetris? bruh who cares? being good at many games doesnt make you a legend in every game that not how life works :wowsfishpalm:

You don't understand. I got an A+ in Calculus. I can't lose.

[Kim]

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

already stopped reading after the cringe line:
am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on

Bro only cause you are good in other games doesnt make you a pro at everything xD whats next you are good in minecraft bedwars and tetris? bruh who cares? being good at many games doesnt make you a legend in every game that not how life works :wowsfishpalm:

I can make i great baked spaghetti yet i find the dlc hard. It makes no sense.

i'm good at sudoku, i should be able to invade your world and eat your spaghettis !

[foodfairy]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

already stopped reading after the cringe line:
am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on

Bro only cause you are good in other games doesnt make you a pro at everything xD whats next you are good in minecraft bedwars and tetris? bruh who cares? being good at many games doesnt make you a legend in every game that not how life works :wowsfishpalm:

You don't understand. I got an A+ in Calculus. I can't lose.

I am a chess Grandmaster so i cant beat ER blindfolded

[paincanbefun]

Originally posted by WANGNUNOIT:

call me something like "unskilled" or "noob" or simply tell me to get better at the game

you said it, not me

[duck_dodgers]

Let me try to address these points one by one:

First: For the non-gimmick Golems, Stay close to its feet on the rear side and smack away while mounted. This way the only attack that can harm you are the stomp attacks and you can simply double jump using torrent to evade them. The Lance talisman and Ash blessings are your friend, also farm some rimed rowas from the snowy areas and keep a stash during the fight. The gimmick Golem is a bit of a pain, however, if you read a certain note you find and observe that Golem's boss arena, the answer should be clear.

Second: The Dancing Lion, much like Margit in the base game punishes panic roiling. It also punishes players who get too close in on its flanks. In my opinion, the best way to fight this boss is dodge precisely and move in a way that the player is in front of the Lion's head so that we may punish its head-slam attacks (these have AoE effect in Frost mode), Also, to learn the bosses moves, keep distance and watch the Lion's hindquarters, that pretty much telegraphs all the moves it makes.

Rellana also calls for precision dodging and funnily enough, some back pedalling. She idles for a bit if you actually mange to get away from her and she also idles for a good two seconds after her heavy attacks, so I dodged those attacks while staying close to her and then followed up with an impaling thrust for some good poise damage. While she is entering her second phase, I used my physick with the spiked cracked tear and could bring her down for a critical attack twice in less than 30 seconds, both times with two consecutive impaling thrusts. That pretty ended the fight for me. You can also stay close to her in her second phase to bait out her fire attacks and dodge past her to punish her. All in, I managed to get four critical hits on her in my winning attempt.

Third: The DLC also has NG+ scaling and in my humble opinion, experiencing the DLC for the first time with NG+3 scaling is not the wisest course of action.

Fourth: I agree with the performance issues, i sincerely hope they put a patch out to fix it.

To conclude, The DLC is hard as ♥♥♥♥ but in no way is it unfair or unlearnable. I'm sure there are plenty of other strategies that people will be more than willing to share. Also, I'm sorry to tell you that I found at least two more bosses who make Rellana look like a walk in the park.

But this difficulty spike is kind of the logical result of what FromSoft has been doing over the past 11-12 years. They have been consistently upping the ante with their boss fights over the years and there are only so many ways one can make a boss fight difficult. I'm also sure they would have faced a similar or worse backlash from their long time fans if the difficulty did not spike in the DLC.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by zmanbuilder:

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

already stopped reading after the cringe line:
am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on

Bro only cause you are good in other games doesnt make you a pro at everything xD whats next you are good in minecraft bedwars and tetris? bruh who cares? being good at many games doesnt make you a legend in every game that not how life works

I can make i great baked spaghetti yet i find the dlc hard. It makes no sense.

clearly dlc is hard needs rework :O

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

already stopped reading after the cringe line:
am very high elo in LoL, CSGO/CS2, Valorant, and so on

Bro only cause you are good in other games doesnt make you a pro at everything xD whats next you are good in minecraft bedwars and tetris? bruh who cares? being good at many games doesnt make you a legend in every game that not how life works

You don't understand. I got an A+ in Calculus. I can't lose.

do more sports and train your stamina and lift some weights for extra carry weight , Endurance , vitality , Strength and Dex

[Automaton-37467]

I thought everyone knew that thinking you’re good at video games is the number 1 mistake when going into a new fromsoft dlc or game.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by Loathsome Dung Eater:

I thought everyone knew that thinking you’re good at video games is the number 1 mistake when going into a new fromsoft dlc or game.

Funny how it's the Fromsoft veterans that most often forget that.

"I beat DS3, I shouldn't be losing!" Welcome to Elden Ring. You will die.

[surreptitious]

It is just bad

Barren, Boring and Bad.

Every fight has been a slog.
Every boss i have laughed out loud at the stupidity.

Im watching non binary Sailor Moon, i mean Messmer, Do Radagons jump spear attack right into Malenias Waterfoul to pop up into the God Sklin Noble rapier flurry into godricks Axe plunge .. one after the other ... absolutely stupid. Flying across the screen like birds.

The animation is literally shooting the boss as an ash of war ... you know the spiral air attack the giants do ... paste the bosses onto that attack ... that's their closer ... its just such a failure.

it comes across as the most uninspired thing i can think of ..
Fields of NOTHING .... NOTHING ... the finger print area.... NOTHING ....
I had to look online to confirm ... there was nothing there ...

The last boss victory strategy sums up the DLC ... look for it if you want to ruin your game.

The game goes from fields of black formless mobs who die from a stiff fart.
To blenders equipped with laser beams who one tap you from the next zip code.

All flash, with endless attack chains and annoying roll catch extended attacks and delays.
Obvious tampering with summons to make them useless at holding the mobs attention for more than one attack and then fill the game to the roof with summon upgrades.

The whole blue flower area is a copy and past of the danm Structure with the exact same reward in the same place 5 times.

Whatever ...

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by surreptitious:

The last boss victory strategy sums up the DLC ... look for it if you want to ruin your game.

Being good at dodging?

https://youtu.be/5FohsuvPB8M

[BUSS DRIVER]

Originally posted by WANGNUNOIT:

This dlc is not fun to play.

this game is not about getting fun playing it in the first place, none of DS series games have ever been about that