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Not quite that far east. Talking about the area south of the church, looks like the woods continue before finally stopping under the dead dragon remains. Area immediately south of discussion chamber site of grace.
When you find your way to the one at the south of the map, there's a path up from there.
Then just head south east until you reach a slope down to the beach which leads to the southern finger ruins. Then the area you are trying to get to is up the hill from the west side of those ruins.
It's kinda hidden away, and no there's no way to get to it from the madness forest. got to go the long way around.