why other soulslike games don't feel as good as fromsoft games?

[TheFibrewire]

Darks Souls 1 was clunky but it was the ebst in the market, even now many souls clones still fall short in combat compared to Dark Souls 1. Elden Ring the latest of the Fromsoft soulslike game still feel leagues ahead compared to other solslike games.

What is the secret of this and why does Fromsoft make such feel good games compared to other studios making soulslike?

[zero]

as someone who has played a few of them, mortal shell, (both) lords of the fallen, the jeti games(technically), and the surge; i'd say itd mostly just be because of the combat system actually being more complex, and them not forcing a class onto you.

mortal shell has it built in, lords of the fallen its basically just homogenized into a single stat that matters per category, star wars is..focused upon its story and not the gameplay, surge is the only one i'd actually say i enjoyed(out of the ones i said aren't great), its even slower then this game and i like the limb break off system to get weapons/gear, but its very niche.

the only games i'd genuinely say match in terms of quality are the Nioh-style games, which, while souls-like, are their own genre and style, but far faster and mechanically complex.

[Revan]

lies of p is the best non fromsoftware game in my opinion and i probably love it more than the dark souls trilogy, not elden ring or bloodborne tho

[NONAME]

Lies of P feels better than ER. A nice game you can finish in solid 30-35 hours, with a complete (and interesting) story and good mechanics.

[jjstraka34]

No one has made one. And no, Lies of P doesn't rate either.

[Dam Stark]

Only souls like that has similar level design is hellpoint. The rest are no match for FROM and it shows. Also, Lore, music, artsyle.

[Rust Vendor]

Jedi Fallen Order has better combat than DS1 and 2 for sure. Didn't play the second one. Lies of P is weird as hell, couldn't figure out if you are actually supposed to perfect guard everything or not, but its an awkward system and the dodge doesn't dodge. It's like half the dodge and half the deflect time as sekiro, minus the jumping.

[roguechesthairs]

I could t get into lies of p. It seems very indie. So sick of unity games and prob ue5 games if I ever played one.

[roguechesthairs]

Elden ring is the best souls like game.

[GosuCab]

Originally posted by Revan:

lies of p is the best non fromsoftware game in my opinion and i probably love it more than the dark souls trilogy, not elden ring or bloodborne tho

I can only second this. If you are looking for a good soulslike experience that isn't from fromsoft go with this. Allows for a variety of builds as well.

[TyresTyco]

Lies of P surely comes close but I also didnt like it enough to actually buy it on steam and only played it on gp. It was good and actually has some of the typical fromsoftware feeling playing it.

Then comes Nioh which is an entirely different horse which is probably the best series to play if you are burned out of fromsoftware games.

Wo Long also is good.. but not good enough lol. For one gamepass playthrough however it was surely awesome.

All the others try to copy fromsoft without knowing what makes their games special. They always lack something. I mostly tried them all besides the very cheap ones. The surge 1 however was quite nice besides bosses. I gave up on 2 halfway through however.. dunno why.

[OgichiGame]

I haven't played many, but I think Lies of P is better then at least half of Fromsoft's games. I rank it above DS2, DS3, Elden Ring, Demon Souls, and even BB. Only ones I think are as good or better are DS1 and Sekiro. Lies of P is goated.

[Wheee333ee33e3e]

Ds1 was fighting the game engine, bottomless pits, enemies placed to surprise gank you. Peak is capra demon arena, what a complete joke, basically fighting in a stairwell. Later games were all about boss fights.

[Fenix]

We all know the best non fromsoft souls game is the crab one :p

[OgichiGame]

Originally posted by Fenix:

We all know the best non fromsoft souls game is the crab one :p

I still need to play that. I'm hoping it's good

[roguechesthairs]

Hollow knight? I have Elden ring burnout and I thought I’d play a different game. 2d souls game. Need a different game to play at the moment.