ELDEN RING

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hunteliar92 Jun 28, 2024 @ 12:54pm
DLC Radahn phase 2 just unreasonably too hard
normal heavy armor build, with Malenia's blade, i tried like 5 hrs still didnt beat it.
phase 1 is easy but phase 2 omg Miquella's non stop magic flashbang are slapping my eyes! its unfair! i can't see the move how am i gonna dodge it?
im no pro at souls game but not suck either, this should not be work like that.
update:
i did it after two days, i never stuck at one boss for so long.
one thing really helped is that i opted everything to low, by that i can finally see his move and improve fps drop problem.
Last edited by hunteliar92; Jun 29, 2024 @ 9:24pm
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Pixel Jun 28, 2024 @ 12:56pm 
try using some holy resist spells or a talisman if you aren't super good at dodging things like me.

Also obviously some armors are better for certain types of damage as well, and there's a black steel shield you can get that has 85% resist from holy if you want to use a shield.
Last edited by Pixel; Jun 28, 2024 @ 12:57pm
hunteliar92 Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Pixel:
try using some holy resist spells or a talisman if you aren't super good at dodging things like me.

Also obviously some armors are better for certain types of damage as well, and there's a black steel shield you can get that has 85% resist from holy if you want to use a shield.
thx for the info about black steel shield, i go check it out!
Shmirtz Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by hunteliar92:
normal heavy armor build, with Malenia's blade, i tried like 5 hrs still didnt beat it.
phase 1 is easy but phase 2 omg Miquella's non stop magic flashbang are slapping my eyes! its unfair! i can't see the move how am i gonna dodge it?
im no pro at souls game but not suck either, this should be work like that.

Get the golden braid talisman, dragoncrest talisman, and pearldrake +3 talisman. Also equip opaline hardtear and bubble tear to your physick. Then do the sekiro strat: practice dodging every attack, don't focus on hitting him just dodging. Do this a couple of times until you are use to dodging him then equip your weapon and weave attacks when he stops his combos. You should have a higher success rate after this.
Ω Arkandor Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:05pm 
yes, he pretty much goes from hard but fun to hard but BS. Theres so many things wrong about this boss.

Every single one of his moves ends with a pillar of multiple light aoes only to end with a 360 mini-nuke at the end of his combo and you cant see anything because of the flashbang.

Its extremely hard to see what the big guy is going to do because Miquella hair gets in the way

His light of miquela mega nuke will drop your fps from 60 to 10 in seconds.

His teleport flashbanging move is a weird and annoying pain in the ass and combined with the 3 things... it makes the boss fight a completely unfun mess.

I could almost do his phase 1 without any damage with my grave scythe/dual uchis but i switched to the fingerprint shield and antspur otherwise i wouldnt last 2 minutes against this mess.

It feels like im fighting a modded version of radahn, like ongball download and fight some extremely hard modded bosses.
Last edited by Ω Arkandor; Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:09pm
Maraxus Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by hunteliar92:
normal heavy armor build, with Malenia's blade, i tried like 5 hrs still didnt beat it.
phase 1 is easy but phase 2 omg Miquella's non stop magic flashbang are slapping my eyes! its unfair! i can't see the move how am i gonna dodge it?
im no pro at souls game but not suck either, this should not be work like that.
One thing I noticed is that, if you're going to dodge, it's almost always best to dodge into his attacks as the aftershocks on his horizontal attacks spawn a few meters away from the actual swing itself. Verticals require side dodges though, of course.

As for the flashbanging, I'm with you there. Really wish there was a little less going on so we could see the tells better
Chris1 Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:06pm 
The problem with the second phase is really you have to do trial and error constantly to understand how to dodge all the BS, while the BS basically fills up the screen with crap. If you don't have patience for it just grab a holy resist great-shield and block all the ridiculous crap. It really isn't fun and it's also not very hard, all things considered. Probably the least rewarding final boss in From history to beat.
Shmirtz Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Ω Arkandor:
yes, he pretty much goes from hard but fun to hard but BS. Theres so many things wrong about this boss.

Every single one of his moves ends with a pillar of multiple light aoes only to end with a 360 mini-nuke at the end of his combo and you cant see anything because of the flashbang.

Its extremely hard to see what the big guy is going to do because Miquella hair gets in the way

His light of miquela mega nuke will drop your fps from 60 to 10 in seconds.

His teleport flashbanging move is a weird and annoying pain in the ass and combined with the 3 things... it makes the boss fight a completely unfun mess.
That's easily avoidable. During the fight you need to constantly move left around him whilst dodging his blades, I've seen players go to the right to dodge nowadays but for me he does a combo that weaves a right side attack which is pretty hard to react to so left always worked better for me. You can have a great deal of success always moving to the left, even when he does his rock meteor move, run to the left and dodge as soon as the nearest rock that he pulled is close to you.
Azyle Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:11pm 
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2183837652

~37 minutes in for the kill. He really isn't TOO bad. This was done solo, no magic buffs, hell no Rune Arch cause I forgot about them. Yes, there were times I almost died, yes he is hard. He isn't terrible. Just the chugging of the FPS is bad here.
Nitro Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:15pm 
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Git gud
Blue And Yellow Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:28pm 
L take, he absolutely is the hardest boss fromsoft ever made for sure, but you just need to git gud bro. the only truly bs attack he has is the double slash - cross slash combo, fought him for 2 hours and never dodged that combo correctly as you literally dont have enough time to roll twice for the second attack, maybe it is rollable but i couldn't figure out how.

other than that, his move set in second phase is kinda the same but with added light pillars, its easier to adjust to his second phase when you think about it that way.

And no, i did not use cheese, broken builds, summons.. i fought him fairly with a very normal / classic build.
Azyle Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Annihilluss:
L take, he absolutely is the hardest boss fromsoft ever made for sure, but you just need to git gud bro. the only truly bs attack he has is the double slash - cross slash combo, fought him for 2 hours and never dodged that combo correctly as you literally dont have enough time to roll twice for the second attack, maybe it is rollable but i couldn't figure out how.

other than that, his move set in second phase is kinda the same but with added light pillars, its easier to adjust to his second phase when you think about it that way.

And no, i did not use cheese, broken builds, summons.. i fought him fairly with a very normal / classic build.
Yep. He is really overblown in difficulty because he is actually challenging unlike 90% of the base game (Which really was just Miss Waterfowl).
Agoraphobic Meep Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:41pm 
Totally agree. I actually like his moveset, but the light pillar gimmick and the lack of optimization absolutely killed the enjoyment for me. His actual moveset is lacking too is the thing, outside of double slash -> cross, which you can block the first hit by two handing your weapon and then roll the other 2, his moveset is honestly kind of limited and predictable. You can learn first phase which already makes up 85 percent of his moveset in like, a few deaths max. None of his other combo starters are quite as fast as the cross which makes him surprisingly easy to react to, and he's comparatively kind of slow even compared to some DS3 bosses.

The only reason this boss is as hard as he is is because of the visual overstimulation that comes from the light pillars, FPS drops, and miquella's hair. Those 3 completely tank the visual clarity in the fight so that actually learning how to properly dodge the light pillars or the clones takes way more effort than it really should.

You can make any boss harder by flashbanging the player, I'm sure iudex gundyr would take every new player 20 extra deaths if before every move he made the entire screen go white. It's just not a fun or interactive way to do it.
Last edited by Agoraphobic Meep; Jun 28, 2024 @ 1:43pm
GamerX Jun 28, 2024 @ 2:29pm 
I´ve beaten the final boss - after about 150 tries, using my mimic tear +10 and a lot of practise. In fact, practise was more important than improving my built (which isn´t that great, good shield +10). Getting the Halidrake Talisman +2 helped a little bit against Holy damage.

I was very frustrated because phase 2 is rather unfair.

I play with mouse and keyboard, by the way.
Last edited by GamerX; Jun 28, 2024 @ 2:30pm
Vinnolo Jun 28, 2024 @ 2:37pm 
hug him, and most of his AoE in phase 2 misses, stay on his face as much as you can and dodge to his sides
subtlemantra Jun 29, 2024 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by Azyle:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2183837652

~37 minutes in for the kill. He really isn't TOO bad. This was done solo, no magic buffs, hell no Rune Arch cause I forgot about them. Yes, there were times I almost died, yes he is hard. He isn't terrible. Just the chugging of the FPS is bad here.

I love how he hit you with almost none of his difficult to avoid AOE attacks in phase one by luck of the draw and you come on here saying "He's not that hard." You got really lucky.
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