CAN YOU STOP GETTING 1 SHOTTED

[goobyplz]

I swear, the last 10 times i tried to help someone with messmer everyone just walks into the arena and instantly died. once before i even walked through the fog wall.

People, if you can only last in the arena a few seconds longer than you do in bed nobody wants to help you. Put a shield on, get something with bloodhound step, play defensively and let us summons do our thing, or youre not gonna have any summons to use.

[Moonfear]

i have different issue, so far when i needed help, summoned player nearly allways died first. And i was not just running away from boss, i was actively clapping their cheeks.

[Vinnolo]

have seen hosts and phantoms with less than 1k hp, they just insta die to anything

[Werdna]

Ah yes 45 Vigor builds. Blame Fextralife for griefing the entire generation of RPG players.

[Morgoth]

Radagons Soreseal+ Marikas Soreseal+ Hit from a DLC Boss = Instant death

[BudgieGaming]

If you are getting very frustrated with this, just get into the habit of checking the host's scadutree level in the Status screen as soon as you enter in the session, and you can gauge the likelihood that it will happen from that. You can also use it to compare your damage and resistance levels in the host's world versus the levels you had when you did the fight in your world, as a quick estimate of how hard the attempt will be.

I personally will give it a shot no matter what, but if the host is trying something borderline absurd like Messmer at scadutree blessing 4, I wouldn't blame a cooper for leaving the session. After all, you signed up for helping, not carrying.

[Coocla]

Originally posted by Inquisitor:

Ah yes 45 Vigor builds. Blame Fextralife for griefing the entire generation of RPG players.

I dont think its about 45 vigor. People just dont want to roll sometimes

[Werdna]

Originally posted by Coocla:

Originally posted by Inquisitor:

Ah yes 45 Vigor builds. Blame Fextralife for griefing the entire generation of RPG players.

I dont think its about 45 vigor. People just dont want to roll sometimes

Well he talks about one-shots
Worst case scenario of a proper 120(lowest meta level) build is 55 Vigor + HP ring which brings you just above 2k health and you can't be one-shotted even if naked and having no blessings that way.

[Spogg]

This is why if i'm truly stuck I just cave in a use mimic tear
The only one you can trust is yo self.

But I have no needed to use summons so far in the dlc
mainly because I did all the side content first before fighting the main bosses so they are a lot easier.

Also My build is broken, raptors talons with bloodflame, 2500 hp with defence talimans
and the endure ash of war, I can just damage trade almost every boss to death

[Taddy Mason]

Originally posted by Inquisitor:

Originally posted by Coocla:

I dont think its about 45 vigor. People just dont want to roll sometimes

Well he talks about one-shots
Worst case scenario of a proper 120(lowest meta level) build is 55 Vigor + HP ring which brings you just above 2k health and you can't be one-shotted even if naked and having no blessings that way.

i don't think a role playing game is balanced very well if the "proper" build(s) require so much HP to compensate for the fact enemies and/or bosses hit so hard. i think it restricts build variety to seemingly require such a thing.

[Deus Sinistro]

at 3k hp lvl 300 I still get 1 shot lol and not even new game

[!@#$%!@#%!]

if they can beat the boss , they wont need help either

[Settings]

Originally posted by Inquisitor:

Ah yes 45 Vigor builds. Blame Fextralife for griefing the entire generation of RPG players.

People only want max damage builds because they're shortsighted, it's not Fextralife's fault that people put those builds on the internet like "LOOK I CAN ONE SHOT EVERYTHING THAT ISNT A BOSS NOW" while refusing to explain that a stiff breeze can kill you once you get past Limgrave

[Werdna]

Originally posted by Taddy Mason:

Originally posted by Inquisitor:

Well he talks about one-shots
Worst case scenario of a proper 120(lowest meta level) build is 55 Vigor + HP ring which brings you just above 2k health and you can't be one-shotted even if naked and having no blessings that way.

i don't think a role playing game is balanced very well if the "proper" build(s) require so much HP to compensate for the fact enemies and/or bosses hit so hard. i think it restricts build variety to seemingly require such a thing.

Well actually that much is required to survive all the 80 mainstat ash of war fullcombos in PVP. And IF you summon at all your build IS a pvp build regardless of what host thinks or desires.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Deus Sinistro:

at 3k hp lvl 300 I still get 1 shot lol and not even new game

Why?
I’m in ng+7 and I don’t get one shot.

[Coocla]

Originally posted by Inquisitor:

Originally posted by Coocla:

I dont think its about 45 vigor. People just dont want to roll sometimes

Well he talks about one-shots
Worst case scenario of a proper 120(lowest meta level) build is 55 Vigor + HP ring which brings you just above 2k health and you can't be one-shotted even if naked and having no blessings that way.

well i always play with 40 vigor in every souls game but i think it doesnt matter how much your vigor is on dlc u always get 2-3 shot