Should I fully level scadutree blessing for final boss

[Comrade Maethor]

I'm at level 16, but if I need to defeat Commander Gaius to get level 20, that will never happen. I'm doing ~1250 damage to Radahn with R2s, which seems manageable as long as I play well. Then again, idk how much damage is ideal for most players. Obviously the choice is up to me how hard I want the game to be, but if level 20 helps out a lot I wouldn't mind it. The fight is just really exhausting, needing to have everything perfectly timed or die in two hits. Not necessarily complaining, just want to know if it's worth.

[Foxrun]

That depends how good you are. The final boss is extremely difficult (depending on the player, someone has already done a no hit run). If you have had some trouble with some of the bosses then it would probably be a good idea.

[River Victor]

What build are you using? If you're using a melee build with about 40 points of endurance, you should have enough stamina to fight him using 25+ Fingerprint Shield and a fast sword with maybe poison. Max out the shield and equip Pearl Shield Talisman that increase your all non-phys when shielding, and Great Shield Talisman that increase your guarding ability, and the Two-headed Green Turtle and he's managable.

[BKo]

They put 5 fragments right next to each other after gaius, because exploration, so your best is going to be 19. By the way if you stop trying to use torrent, gaius will be about a million times easier than promised consort.

[Comrade Maethor]

Originally posted by Foxrun:

That depends how good you are. The final boss is extremely difficult (depending on the player, someone has already done a no hit run). If you have had some trouble with some of the bosses then it would probably be a good idea.

Phase 1 isn't THAT bad. There's only one attack I can't dodge reliably (double slash into simultaneous cross-armed double slash that has a ranged component), but I need to be 100% focused at all times. Phase 2 is a sht show. Miquella's follow ups disrupt my timing and the Malenia hologram attack when they're floating in the air, no idea if I'm supposed to roll or strafe it, or both. Either way that attack kills me most of the time.

I mean I could, but again, if I have to defeat Gaius to do so, that is never going to happen. Fck that boss. Radahn is well designed and difficult, Gaius is just broken.

[Comrade Maethor]

Originally posted by BKo:

They put 5 fragments right next to each other after gaius, because exploration, so your best is going to be 18. By the way if you stop trying to use torrent, gaius will be about a million times easier than promised consort.

I got the farthest on Gaius on Torrent lmao. Idk if there's a good way to fight that hitbox abuser. Just throw yourself at him and hope for the best.

[Shield]

Originally posted by Comrade Maethor:

Originally posted by Foxrun:

That depends how good you are. The final boss is extremely difficult (depending on the player, someone has already done a no hit run). If you have had some trouble with some of the bosses then it would probably be a good idea.

Phase 1 isn't THAT bad. There's only one attack I can't dodge reliably (double slash into simultaneous cross-armed double slash that has a ranged component), but I need to be 100% focused at all times. Phase 2 is a sht show. Miquella's follow ups disrupt my timing and the Malenia hologram attack when they're floating in the air, no idea if I'm supposed to roll or strafe it, or both. Either way that attack kills me most of the time.

I mean I could, but again, if I have to defeat Gaius to do so, that is never going to happen. Fck that boss. Radahn is well designed and difficult, Gaius is just broken.

Run back when he brings the rocks out, dodge rocks by moving to the side, then keep moving backward. He does 5 flash attacks in total with the first 4 having a range limit and the 5th homing in on your character

[chima]

Originally posted by Comrade Maethor:

Originally posted by Foxrun:

That depends how good you are. The final boss is extremely difficult (depending on the player, someone has already done a no hit run). If you have had some trouble with some of the bosses then it would probably be a good idea.

Phase 1 isn't THAT bad. There's only one attack I can't dodge reliably (double slash into simultaneous cross-armed double slash that has a ranged component), but I need to be 100% focused at all times. Phase 2 is a sht show. Miquella's follow ups disrupt my timing and the Malenia hologram attack when they're floating in the air, no idea if I'm supposed to roll or strafe it, or both. Either way that attack kills me most of the time.

I mean I could, but again, if I have to defeat Gaius to do so, that is never going to happen. Fck that boss. Radahn is well designed and difficult, Gaius is just broken.

I beat Gaius by limiting myself to 1 attack per dodge roll. He isn't that bad really. Not a very fun boss in my opinion though.

[River Victor]

Originally posted by Comrade Maethor:

Originally posted by BKo:

They put 5 fragments right next to each other after gaius, because exploration, so your best is going to be 18. By the way if you stop trying to use torrent, gaius will be about a million times easier than promised consort.

I got the farthest on Gaius on Torrent lmao. Idk if there's a good way to fight that hitbox abuser. Just throw yourself at him and hope for the best.

Get off Torrent. Read my post carefully. You can defeat him if you're using melee build and Fingerprint Shield.

[靐]

I had no idea I went straigth to the end boss and wantede to check his patterns (welp and boss died kek). Was like 7 or 8.

[Krazy Wallet]

Originally posted by Comrade Maethor:

Originally posted by Foxrun:

That depends how good you are. The final boss is extremely difficult (depending on the player, someone has already done a no hit run). If you have had some trouble with some of the bosses then it would probably be a good idea.

Phase 1 isn't THAT bad. There's only one attack I can't dodge reliably (double slash into simultaneous cross-armed double slash that has a ranged component), but I need to be 100% focused at all times. Phase 2 is a sht show. Miquella's follow ups disrupt my timing and the Malenia hologram attack when they're floating in the air, no idea if I'm supposed to roll or strafe it, or both. Either way that attack kills me most of the time.

I mean I could, but again, if I have to defeat Gaius to do so, that is never going to happen. Fck that boss. Radahn is well designed and difficult, Gaius is just broken.

I initially thought the same thing when I first encountered Gaius. However, that fight actually grew on me as I got some practice. He's fairly squishy despite having all that armor and easy to stagger with some charged R2s. For me, the hardest attack was the initial charge. If you start off on a bad foot, it can be difficult to recover with his aggression. But all his attacks are dodgeable. Just keep in mind that FS has been heavily utilizing the idea of lingering hitboxes. It's no longer dodging through an attack, it's dodging through an attack at the right time to maximize i-frames, or to give yourself enough time to recover from your roll to immediately roll again depending on the boss.

I'm currently at level 18 for Scadutree fragments and have almost beaten the final boss. Even so, I'm considering grabbing one more to bump that to 19 for the extra survivability.

[Something]

I beat Radahn in 3 casts of my Perfume's weapon art.

[Comrade Maethor]

Originally posted by River Victor:

What build are you using? If you're using a melee build with about 40 points of endurance, you should have enough stamina to fight him using 25+ Fingerprint Shield and a fast sword with maybe poison. Max out the shield and equip Pearl Shield Talisman that increase your all non-phys when shielding, and Great Shield Talisman that increase your guarding ability, and the Two-headed Green Turtle and he's managable.

Two-handed BHF with 50/50 str/dex. 32 endurance and 60 vigor. Can str/dex be optimized? Yes, BHF scaling leans toward dex but the difference is not substantial. Stamina management has not proven to be an issue in this fight. Equip load, however, could admittedly be higher as I can only dodge attacks with light roll and I have little armor even with Great-Jar arsenal.

As for talismans, great-jar as I said, then pearldrake +3 to make up for lack of armor, crimson seed +1 for heal efficiency, and two-handed sword talisman for some extra damage.

Then again, how much time would it take to farm for levels compared to me just fighting him at my current level? I've thought about leveling endurance so I can wear more armor but that won't change the fact that his basic attacks rip chunks out of planets.

[Comrade Maethor]

Originally posted by Chub-Zero:

I beat Radahn in 3 casts of my Perfume's weapon art.

Congratulations!

[Something]

Originally posted by Comrade Maethor:

Originally posted by Chub-Zero:

I beat Radahn in 3 casts of my Perfume's weapon art.

Congratulations!

You can too it's a super simple build to throw together.

[River Victor]

Originally posted by Comrade Maethor:

Two-handed BHF with 50/50 str/dex. 32 endurance and 60 vigor. Can str/dex be optimized? Yes, BHF scaling leans toward dex but the difference is not substantial. Stamina management has not proven to be an issue in this fight. Equip load, however, could admittedly be higher as I can only dodge attacks with light roll and I have little armor even with Great-Jar arsenal.

As for talismans, great-jar as I said, then pearldrake +3 to make up for lack of armor, crimson seed +1 for heal efficiency, and two-handed sword talisman for some extra damage.

Then again, how much time would it take to farm for levels compared to me just fighting him at my current level? I've thought about leveling endurance so I can wear more armor but that won't change the fact that his basic attacks rip chunks out of planets.

What I suggested is that you tank pretty much everything. With that amount of stamina, you will be able to shield the entire attack chain and hit back once or twice after, then wait for the next chain. Pearl Shield (all type of def when shielding), Dragoncrest Shield (enormous phys), Two-head Green Turtle (stamina), and that talisman that boost all non-phys defense. You can even tank the magic, even the big meteor crash with negligible damage. Use poison, as he's hard to bleed. Believe me, if you have trouble dodging, this is the way.