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I believe they even said that it's supposed to be like reading a book when you don't know the language it's written in so you just imagine the story instead. That's intentional.
FromSoftware: I believe @vaatividya is going to enjoy this
FromSoftware: I think @vaatividya will enjoy dissecting this frame by frame
FromSoftware: Yes @vaatividya you should totally reply to our DM
I enjoyed the endings and the lore of the base game however.
Ranni is the one who's destiny is being held back by the stars. I forget which item states it, I'll fork through them tomorrow and try to find it, but one of them talks about how Radahn was basically cleaning house after Morgott kicked him out of Leyndell, amassing an army to try and retake the capital from Morgott. And even though she was sworn to Miquella, Melenia was fed up when he was gloating over halting the stars, and even though Miquella pleaded her to not go, she went as she felt nobody else could stop him. It wasn't until she left that Mohg made his move.
Melenia doesn't braid her hair. While it could be Miquella, the item affects God's fate, not demigods. It's far more likely Marika.
So, body, mind, and spirit, are all very important and very real things in Elden Ring's world. It's why Margit fights you so many times, his spirit is possessing loyalist (weather he beat the loyalty into them is up for debate I think the intro shows him hopping from the throne dicing up some frail old dude), and they'll just come back if he fails anyways, because the rune of death is stolen. So, back to St. Trina, she was Miquella's lover, and was a real person and a very powerful. He may have been attracted to her because of her ability to put things in "eternal sleep". He really praised Godwyn, if the suggestion on the Golden Epitaph is indeed Miquella, so he could of "charmed her" in order to learn more about/from her to try and help Godwyn find "eternal rest". However, at some point, Miquella discovered the process Marika used to fuse with/make Radagon, as evidenced by the claims that "St. Trina was a comely young girl, others were sure he was a boy", and performed it with St. Trina. He needed to abandon his love for her (and everyone and everything by association, which is why there's a NPC stating he's "gone too far" near that footprint). As doing so, warped and disfigured her body. The poison she secretes is the only way for her to commune with people she seems worthy to assist her in her one and only goal now: making sure Miquella doesn't ascend to godhood. She did this with her arrows, too, if you read their description. If you think this is all a little much, wait till you hear my theories on your Messmer segment...
Because mommy dearest is still running the Lands Between. She probably wouldn't be happy with him trying to userp her. The whole Haligtree might of just been one giant "Charm spell" on Marika/The Elden Beast to get them to think he's being innocent, and thus the best Empyrean to ascend to Marika's goodhood "goddess of "benevolence", don't forget (just don't talk to her about horns). If Ranni knows about the Erdtree and the Elden Beast, and her and Miquella were once so buddy-buddy, he probably knows how that whole machine works and why he's trying to build something completely, or at least moreso, detached from it's will in the land of shadow.
So, Messmer is a child of Marika. It's stated plainly so in his soul. I saw someone else saying he was "her favorite warrior but he loved all the heretical stuff", but he was born with red hair and a snake of the flame god in one of his eyes (don't ask me to explain, I'm looking at the same text, here) so I'm lead to believe he's the last "secret" son she had with Godfrey, after they killed the giants. She removed the eye, either to try and remove the curse or just out of spite for her old enemies. She tried to replace it with grace, but it still just wasn't good enough for her, so she put him in her own little pocket prison where she disappeared 1/7th of the continent.
Now, there's these new knights and nerds who believe in the stars leading to an order of the moon, and that's not gonna fly for the Erdtree order, so she needs to go to war, but she's a benevolent merciful "goddess" (feats like using the death rune to wipe out most of the giants probably helped here), so she can't do it. But she is a powerful faith user (given that Mimic Veils are called also called "Marika's Mischief") she could change her appearance or body to be this powerful warrior she needed. And who else than her beautiful cursed son, who's practically a doppelganger of Godwyn? This all does fit it nicely with Radagon seemingly showing up out of nowhere after Godfrey is exiled, and the crucible labeled heresy.
As for why Messmer seals Miquella, I see him and Margott being very good friends. I know they're brothers, but they have a very similar ideology/philosophy, in the sense that just because their mother and God turned their back on them, doesn't mean they don't love Marika back, and would die for her, they both do something they view as "unholy" during their fight with the Tarnished, and both feel apologetic for being forced to use their "unholy" gifts. He really is the Shadow's version of him, even protecting someone he doesn't like (Miquella/Godrick) from someone he fear might be stronger than him (you).
I'm stemming most of these stretches from the fact that Messmer's theme sounds so similar to Radagon's, but as we know by now, nothing is a coincidence in these games.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, Marika definitely had a bunch more kids than we see as bosses. All the wandering mausoleums are housing her "soulless, unwanted demigod children", as are the coffins you find in the dlc, I assume.
Like St. Trina being a boy or a girl by some accounts? I was one of the people in the minority who thought Miquella was the main, penultimate bad guy, and was defending Mohg (old American Dad joke my friends and I had about it: "there's a special place in hell for people like you! Right in-between the pedophiles and all the sexy children who seduced them!"). Anyone who knows how powerful and dangerous "charm/luck cranked up to 110/100" (I'm sure One Punch Man fans could think of a character that fits this bill) is, knows how bad of a dude he could potentially be, and everyone would still praise him as a saint. He seriously might of been the thing that made Ranni come up with the Night of the Black Knives. DLC has been fun to see the blood king vindicated. Miquella is definitely a crazy bunghole.
That same dude who said Messmer might be Marika's favorite warrior did also say that he thinks the only thing Miquella held onto was his Ambition as an Empyrean lord, which is a pretty horrific concept. The only thing he wants is to be a god, doesn't care how he gets there.
honestly theres some pretty solid lore in the dlc, but it does feel all over the place. and the miquella and radahn stuff is very forced. like why radahn? it would make more sense for it to be godwyn.
wondering if you have a source on hand for this? id be interested to see what got cut.
The whole DLC suffers worse than the main game with the story telling, because you have so many locations now that do not matter in slightest to the main story and you have no reason to go there except for finding Scadutree Fragments.
I don't care what item descriptions will say that explains in vague nonsense why the Scarlet Rot is here and why the Frenzied Flame is there that somehow magically makes it "the bestest thing evah" when neither of these things affects the main story at all and leaves no impact on the base game.
Radahn should NOT have been the final boss, he should have been an echo, memory or shadow fight. Let the player relive the battle between him and Malenia where she is a summon or something, a secret boss that is extremely difficult, because the 1st Phase is great.
I would have accepted Godwyn as a final boss, then maybe I would have been fine with the Twin Pwinces memberberries. As is it is a reused boss, reused assets, reused concept that only exists to Slop Souls fans to goon over, shafting Messmer and Godwyn as ideal final bosses.
So if I ever replay this game, I'll just stop at Messmer, he's the real final boss, I'll do the "interpretation" shtick and pretend my character traveled to the Shadow Lands by boat to defeat a tyrant and then sails home, taking Messmers flame with them.
Because guess what? The writers are so damn stupid that they wrote Miquella as a brilliant mastermind, then his plot gets completely broken when he has to rely on someone to do his job for him.
And because the damn fools are written to rely on eternally underestimating a literal GOD SLAYER, they come off as drooling tools.
So he can sit outside the shadowed gates of Enir-Ilim for all eternity crying "Bu' I a gawd! M'lard, m'lard, I a gawd!" (just read this in Ye Old English with a heavy cockney accent), while the Tarnished just goes home, because they're not going to stop him, these apathetic characters don't even care when the player is trying to be Lord of Frenzied Flame, so the Tarnished has nothing to fear from Miquellas Circus World Tour; they're not going to hunt him, they're written like DS characters, which sadly makes them braindead, because that only works in DS.
Sure hope Moghs corpse doesn't rot Miqy my guy, otherwise you'll have nothing but bones for your strongman to use and there won't be any flesh for you to bounce on if those morons you call "followers" ever stops hitting themselves with their own weapons long enough to actually chase after the player.
The writing in both Dark Souls and Elden Ring always had the NPCs be written to appear smart (ironically by just writing "x character is smart and brilliant and smart" over and over again), then treat the player as if they're always a lv 1 Wretch with a club with no brain and keep that mindset when the player rocks up in full armor belonging to a legend with a mythical sword of doom, having killed literally everyone else around them.
Miyazaki, writing "Miquella is a genius" on your paper DOES NOT make him one, because his entire plan can fail if the player just effing LEAVES after killing Messmer, with the Flame that Miquella NEEDS to enter the final stages of his ascension plans.
I feel insulted that you didn't think I would consider that after realizing Ranni also had "she is smart" written on her character sheet and then her entire plan was doomed to fail from the start, you blind, deaf, comatosed lobotomy patient!
Messmer The Impaler is the real final boss, I already defeated the Twin Princes in DS3, so the Miquella storyline is dead to me and does not exist, it is my opinion and I have a right to have it, if you like what FromSoft did, good for you, I do not and we can agree to disagree, end of discussion.
There's a ghost in Castle Sol in the main game that clearly states Miquella was attempting to revive his 'soulless brother'.
I bet you anything this was the ending they cut. Probably forced you into his ending, which the testers probably said people would complain about, so they just axed it.
I also very strongly believe that Godwyn will be the final boss of the next dlc.
Sadly, it's extremely unlikely that there will be another DLC. While they didn't outright say there wouldn't be one, they did mention that they have no intention of doing so.
Check out some of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ they churned out like a year before Demons Souls released
Between Miyazaki's love of dirty swamp feet and GRRMs love of incest this might be the kinkiest souls ever
They did the same exact thing when Elden Ring was a year old people were asking for dlc and Fromsoft said the exact same thing. It's always 2 DLCs with them, and there's still way too many loose ends with Godwyn, the merging godhood ritual, the Godskin apostles, and the "gloam eyed queen".