Ok the final DLC boss... (no spoilers)

[Dollmaker]

Yeah this is utter BS.

First phase is good, its challenging but fair for the most part, its enjoyable.

Second phase? hell effing no, just no, its by far the worst ive seen out of this game (Arguably any of the souls series), the sheer clutter you get out of it even causes frame drops.

Like i defend the rest of the DLC as being your typical Fromsoft's DLC experience, even again, the first phase of this boss, but the second phase is just a disaster of design.

I had my rage moments but i enjoyed the DLC overall, until i got to that second phase.

Worst thing is i know this boss was nerfed from the review copies, and yeah i can see why.

[BKo]

This seems like it's made for one specific build you look up online and then do rather easily. We got a taste of this with malenia. I'm pretty much done with this series if that's what in store for the future, playing with my guides on the other monitor and following the meta that can beat the horribly designed boss.

[Fluffy Pocket Dragon]

Originally posted by BKo:

We got a taste of this with malenia

Melania's pretty easy with any number of builds.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by BKo:

This seems like it's made for one specific build you look up online and then do rather easily. We got a taste of this with malenia. I'm pretty much done with this series if that's what in store for the future, playing with my guides on the other monitor and following the meta that can beat the horribly designed boss.

Not even close to Malenia.

She has one BS mode, being Waterfowl, but even that feels fair compared to basically everything in the second phase of the final DLC boss.

[Senki]

yep, it's horrible and feels like it's made by modders who never made a game before than someone like fromsoftware

[PhyrixisGaming]

Just remember. People WANTED that as a boss. Don't get to complain when it was begged for.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Senki:

yep, it's horrible and feels like it's made by modders who never made a game before than someone like fromsoftware

It would be hilarious if the Ascended mod didnt change anything about this boss cause its already that level of BS lol

[Jonas]

I dont understand how this trash got through quality testing.

[AlexIsACarrot]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Yeah this is utter BS.

First phase is good, its challenging but fair for the most part, its enjoyable.

Second phase? hell effing no, just no, its by far the worst ive seen out of this game (Arguably any of the souls series), the sheer clutter you get out of it even causes frame drops.

Like i defend the rest of the DLC as being your typical Fromsoft's DLC experience, even again, the first phase of this boss, but the second phase is just a disaster of design.

I had my rage moments but i enjoyed the DLC overall, until i got to that second phase.

Worst thing is i know this boss was nerfed from the review copies, and yeah i can see why.

second phase 100% getting nerfed and for good reason, I haven't seen a single person with something nice to say about it's genuine ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Nifty]

Originally posted by AlexIsACarrot:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Yeah this is utter BS.

First phase is good, its challenging but fair for the most part, its enjoyable.

Second phase? hell effing no, just no, its by far the worst ive seen out of this game (Arguably any of the souls series), the sheer clutter you get out of it even causes frame drops.

Like i defend the rest of the DLC as being your typical Fromsoft's DLC experience, even again, the first phase of this boss, but the second phase is just a disaster of design.

I had my rage moments but i enjoyed the DLC overall, until i got to that second phase.

Worst thing is i know this boss was nerfed from the review copies, and yeah i can see why.

second phase 100% getting nerfed and for good reason, I haven't seen a single person with something nice to say about it's genuine ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

I'll say something nice it's a visual spectacle and awesome as hell.

I think it really encapsulates what it's like to fight a God.

And in that sense it's the perfect way to cap of the perfect game.

But the lack of genuine punish windows can be frustrating and to be honest there aren't a lot of amazing ways around it.

[AlexIsACarrot]

Originally posted by Nifty:

Originally posted by AlexIsACarrot:

second phase 100% getting nerfed and for good reason, I haven't seen a single person with something nice to say about it's genuine ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

I'll say something nice it's a visual spectacle and awesome as hell.

I think it really encapsulates what it's like to fight a God.

And in that sense it's the perfect way to cap of the perfect game.

But the lack of genuine punish windows can be frustrating and to be honest there aren't a lot of amazing ways around it.

yeah it does look nice(also looks seizure inducing but that could just be me salty that I keep dying)

[Crimzarkin]

its teligraphed as hell just learn the boss instead of complaining https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4343240481094060242/

[AlexIsACarrot]

Originally posted by Rusty Glint:

its teligraphed as hell just learn the boss instead of complaining https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4343240481094060242/

I ain't reading all that

[Nifty]

Originally posted by Rusty Glint:

its teligraphed as hell just learn the boss instead of complaining https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4343240481094060242/

Well I beat it without using an op build so clearly my copium was strong enough to get me through it, or my pure gamer cred.

But suffice to say if I had the slightest amount of trouble my first time through I would understand others being stuck for days, a week maybe.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Rusty Glint:

its teligraphed as hell just learn the boss instead of complaining https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4343240481094060242/

Ok, when the freaking boss is so ridiculously spammy it causes frame drops, then the boss is the freaking problem.

Theres no defending this, i dont care how you beat him with the most utterly broken build, if the boss cant be beaten normally without cheesing it, then its bad design, period.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by Rusty Glint:

its teligraphed as hell just learn the boss instead of complaining https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4343240481094060242/

Ok, when the freaking boss is so ridiculously spammy it causes frame drops, then the boss is the freaking problem.

Theres no defending this, i dont care how you beat him with the most utterly broken build, if the boss cant be beaten normally without cheesing it, then its bad design, period.

Btw before you even dare bringing up the "people beat him naked fist only" argument.

Im sure people can do the same for Bed of Chaos, does that mean shes well designed? yeah though so.