Level up your Scadutree Blessing, PLEASE.

[Joe Mamma]

I've been trying to help people to fight Messmer in Coop, but most hosts have a low blessing level for Messmer, it's always like 8-10. And the damage and defense of summons scales with the host, so if a host's blessing is low, all the summons are gonna get the same blessing level. If you're at the point where you gotta fight Messmer, your blessing level should be at least 15. Go explore and get those fragments, it will make everyone's lives easier, both for you and fellow cooperators.

[Key]

Oh yeah. This needs to be spread around.

The coop-ers you summon get scaled to your scadutree level. If you summon me for Messmer and you're at 3 blessings, I'm sorry but there's just nothing I can do to help you.

[Joe Mamma]

Originally posted by Key:

Oh yeah. This needs to be spread around.

The coop-ers you summon get scaled to your scadutree level. If you summon me for Messmer and you're at 3 blessings, I'm sorry but there's just nothing I can do to help you.

These are probably the same people who complain about the DLC being 'too hard'. I just got a host at level 6 blessing, FRIGGIN 6. Of course the DLC is too hard, you're trying to fight Messmer at lvl 6, for God's sake.

[BKo]

I beat him at 10, it's not that big a deal. Messmer has tons of openings after and even during a lot of his attacks. I'd be more worried about a low blessing level for rellana or dancing lion.

[Kurotoge]

It's been two years and people forgot how to Elden Ring. Open World. Explore. Those Fragments are out there! Nab them!

[OgichiGame]

Just beat him offline at level 10. Didn't know I could get higher. Maybe if we didn't have to play a scavenger hunt across the whole map just for marginal increases it wouldn't be an issue.

Personally, I recommend putting bleed on the Rotten Greataxe with Lion's claw, and grabbing the flame talisman +3 that's to the south east. It's not much, but it helps. And if the bosses are all gonna be this BS, then I'm going to cheese them with the most broken stuff I can put together.

[Vermilion Knight]

FromSoftware could just erase the gimmick and scale the game normally instead?

[WagonWheelWatusi]

Originally posted by Mr. Rogers:

Just beat him offline at level 10. Didn't know I could get higher. Maybe if we didn't have to play a scavenger hunt across the whole map just for marginal increases it wouldn't be an issue.

Personally, I recommend putting bleed on the Rotten Greataxe with Lion's claw, and grabbing the flame talisman +3 that's to the south east. It's not much, but it helps. And if the bosses are all gonna be this BS, then I'm going to cheese them with the most broken stuff I can put together.

Haha cheese strats are best.
Same I literally killed Rellana with scarlet rot and poison. Just watched her slowly die while my great shield bros tanked her for me.

[Nauct]

Going back to old areas to explore more it's amazing how much of a difference the blessings make. Attacks go from a 2 shot to a tickle

[Zarrx]

I didn't realize the quest line and beat him at 8 ): didn't get to use hornset summon ):: beat it with a +10 Black Knight Commander Andreas

[Sifer2]

This is quite possibly the worst aspect of the Scadutree fragment system IMO. The fact if you try to help people with boss fights you have no idea if they are just wasting your time by summoning you when their blessing is so low you don't stand a chance.

[Leziropav]

Originally posted by BKo:

I beat him at 10, it's not that big a deal. Messmer has tons of openings after and even during a lot of his attacks. I'd be more worried about a low blessing level for rellana or dancing lion.

wdym? rellana and dancing lion is easy af, tons of opening

[Señor Brown]

Originally posted by Sifer2:

This is quite possibly the worst aspect of the Scadutree fragment system IMO. The fact if you try to help people with boss fights you have no idea if they are just wasting your time by summoning you when their blessing is so low you don't stand a chance.

Yep, it's basically the vigor problem all over again. Lol smh (not at you, of couse).

EDIT: clarification

[Timmy Tuff Nutts]

The bosses get buffed up with summons in the game as well, on most bosses you are 100% better off just using mimic tear and playing solo.

[Foxrun]

Originally posted by Timmy Tuff Nutts:

The bosses get buffed up with summons in the game as well, on most bosses you are 100% better off just using mimic tear and playing solo.

Truth

[VenuSprout]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

FromSoftware could just erase the gimmick and scale the game normally instead?

Not really. Once you start hitting level caps the sense of progression is less. There's a huge difference between a level 20 and 50 player, but a level 120 and 150 player are reasonably similar. The scadutree blessing system is there so that there's a sense of progression at endgame levels. Otherwise it would be boring