To this day - Only 73% of players have even beaten Margret

[OddJob]

Just think about that, bro.

27% of people paid for this game just to get perma cucked by Margit's cheap dagger moves.

This game hates its players lmao

[Lu2]

Originally posted by finkukkuu:

today, i finished game 438h and lvl 230. It was most infuriating game ever i played :D BUT SO MUCH FUN TOO

i would say melania and maliketh posses some treat even to ds veterans . last double boss is weird. now you can play ds 2 its amazing game , more advaced mechanics resebling rather chess then reactive streetfighter nature

[Cheese]

margret

[darinbob]

Well. you can always overlevel to beat Margit. The snag are players who give up because they're not used to Souls-like games, probably not realizing that there's a lot more to do other than Margit, or annoyed at the whole thing.

You can even bypass Margit completely, technically he's optional. Though it just gets harder if you bypass him and all the castle loot.

[jchaosmaster]

Originally posted by darinbob:

Well. you can always overlevel to beat Margit. The snag are players who give up because they're not used to Souls-like games, probably not realizing that there's a lot more to do other than Margit, or annoyed at the whole thing.

You can even bypass Margit completely, technically he's optional. Though it just gets harder if you bypass him and all the castle loot.

I would double argue the opposite. the game really never teaches you true basics. Nor does it provide the answers. What i mean is Margit you have the chain from patches and you got the Blood Tier For Mong final battle. and you have that thing for the wolf guy but the game never explains how that works. But for the rest..... i take everything i says.... No the serpent spear is pointless and until after mountion the somber stone cost is two high for the one time boss fight. What im trying to say is the game does a really bad job teaching you fundamentalist of combat. More the tricks it does teach become bad such as riding around and spamming range skins. Most of all VIT should not be a core stat and i still say the Bosses deal just two much damage. I say this when compaired to bleed all other weakness are next to a joke besides holy on death birds. outside of what elemental weakness are marginal at best.

But over leveling is a pain in the backside two because besides the spot in blood land Their are very frew good stop to grind levels. of hand i know one in Calide outise a fort where you can lure over a bunch of big headed dogs to kill the camp. I know on in mounting top where you kill the two Troll's pulling a cart. Outside of them leveling is a pain.

Compare this to the older DS games. It you in a hallway. You either push or cheese thought or never get anywhere. Everything you NEED is provided and you will have the resorces when you require them.

[Lu2]

Originally posted by jchaosmaster:

Originally posted by darinbob:

Well. you can always overlevel to beat Margit. The snag are players who give up because they're not used to Souls-like games, probably not realizing that there's a lot more to do other than Margit, or annoyed at the whole thing.

You can even bypass Margit completely, technically he's optional. Though it just gets harder if you bypass him and all the castle loot.

I would double argue the opposite. the game really never teaches you true basics. Nor does it provide the answers. What i mean is Margit you have the chain from patches and you got the Blood Tier For Mong final battle. and you have that thing for the wolf guy but the game never explains how that works. But for the rest..... i take everything i says.... No the serpent spear is pointless and until after mountion the somber stone cost is two high for the one time boss fight. What im trying to say is the game does a really bad job teaching you fundamentalist of combat. More the tricks it does teach become bad such as riding around and spamming range skins. Most of all VIT should not be a core stat and i still say the Bosses deal just two much damage. I say this when compaired to bleed all other weakness are next to a joke besides holy on death birds. outside of what elemental weakness are marginal at best.

But over leveling is a pain in the backside two because besides the spot in blood land Their are very frew good stop to grind levels. of hand i know one in Calide outise a fort where you can lure over a bunch of big headed dogs to kill the camp. I know on in mounting top where you kill the two Troll's pulling a cart. Outside of them leveling is a pain.

Compare this to the older DS games. It you in a hallway. You either push or cheese thought or never get anywhere. Everything you NEED is provided and you will have the resorces when you require them.

red family doesnt like fire but yeah i wish enemies resistances would play bigger role in grand scheme of things. same goes for slash type against armor ,stone aside of diferences against stone imps, gorgoyles or magmawyrm which are quite noticable , always worthy to take strike weapon

[vamirez]

Originally posted by jchaosmaster:

Originally posted by darinbob:

Well. you can always overlevel to beat Margit. The snag are players who give up because they're not used to Souls-like games, probably not realizing that there's a lot more to do other than Margit, or annoyed at the whole thing.

You can even bypass Margit completely, technically he's optional. Though it just gets harder if you bypass him and all the castle loot.

I would double argue the opposite. the game really never teaches you true basics. Nor does it provide the answers. What i mean is Margit you have the chain from patches and you got the Blood Tier For Mong final battle. and you have that thing for the wolf guy but the game never explains how that works. But for the rest..... i take everything i says.... No the serpent spear is pointless and until after mountion the somber stone cost is two high for the one time boss fight. What im trying to say is the game does a really bad job teaching you fundamentalist of combat. More the tricks it does teach become bad such as riding around and spamming range skins. Most of all VIT should not be a core stat and i still say the Bosses deal just two much damage. I say this when compaired to bleed all other weakness are next to a joke besides holy on death birds. outside of what elemental weakness are marginal at best.

But over leveling is a pain in the backside two because besides the spot in blood land Their are very frew good stop to grind levels. of hand i know one in Calide outise a fort where you can lure over a bunch of big headed dogs to kill the camp. I know on in mounting top where you kill the two Troll's pulling a cart. Outside of them leveling is a pain.

Compare this to the older DS games. It you in a hallway. You either push or cheese thought or never get anywhere. Everything you NEED is provided and you will have the resorces when you require them.

If you make a point to explore thoroughly, clearing each smaller and larger location like once, you will always be a bit overleveled throughout the game. Grinding is always optional and should only be done if you want to and like it.

[Will]

all of the bosses are easy except for malenia and thats because shes never known defeat

[SundownKid]

Only 78% of players entered Roundtable Hold, which means that ~22% of players probably didn't even boot up the game at all and still have it in their backlog, or didn't give it any chance whatsoever.

That means it is a much more reasonable 5% of people who ragequit at Margit, which sounds about right.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by SundownKid:

Only 78% of players entered Roundtable Hold, which means that ~22% of players probably didn't even boot up the game at all and still have it in their backlog, or didn't give it any chance whatsoever.

That means it is a much more reasonable 5% of people who ragequit at Margit, which sounds about right.

Reaching roundtable requires getting some sites of grace and sitting at them.

I for one was using just a few sites of grace and when I got to roundtable I had even returned to Limgrave from Caelid or maybe even longer than that (what was near 10h or more, just after some 10h that I found the game have a map)

[Sel Und Irae]

I miss month 1 posts about how hard Marg is, That's his weakest form outside Stormveil lol.

[Smyt]

I'm a sucker for Steam sales. I buy 5 games but only end up maybe playing 2 of them