Sorcery is NOT Overpowered

[Casul Gamer]

Edit: Changed the title of my post (originally titled 'Sorcery is WEAK'). People are telling me sorcery is strong, but only with fully maxed out stats and end game gear. So yes, sorcery CAN be strong with a specific build, but it's NOT overpowered like soulsheads claim.

And people are asking my stats. I'm at Elden beast with 18 DEX, 32 STR, and around 52 INT. Everything else in stamina and vigor (over 50 vigor and maybe 30 stamina). Before 40 INT, I was using the best staff in the game for that INT level and after 42 I'm using best for that category. INT was ALWAYS my highest scaling stat throughout my playthrough

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I made a battlemage/spellblade build for my first character and played mostly blind. I leveled my INT up to 50 by the end of the game and had the best staves for my INT. However, I rarely used sorcery.

I wasn't trying to prove anything by not using sorcery much. It just wasn't as effective in most situations. Most bosses have good gap closers that prevent ranged attacks to a certain extent and summons die after a few hits so they only distract them for a short period at best. I also ran out of FP after only a few casts.

Yes, there were situations were sorcery was more useful than melee, but those situations were only a small minority. Also, I'm sure there's some meta builds that go all-in on sorcery that are powerful, but 50 int by end game seemed like a significant enough investment that it should have done more. Going multi-class did prevent me from getting higher FP tho.

[Intellect Inside]

Need to level Mind so you don't run out of FP so fast. Spreading points out too thin is a great way to make sure your build, whatever it is, doesn't work well. Learn the boss movesets and figure out the best sorceries for the situation. Sorcery can be easy mode if done right.

[Borger]

Git gud and level up more

[Alby]

post stats/gear right meow or we're just gonna assume you don't know what you're doing

[echo_ML]

Just use starlight shards 😎

[[AJSA]MeloDeath]

i mean 50 int is really low for the end lol

[SHOCKNUTZ]

this is why

The Network Test allowed players to explore West Limgrave, some parts of Stormhill and a portion of Stormveil Castle.

[Chris1]

I think in general people playing blind tend to have their stats spread too thin to make effective builds. If you want to commit to sorcery, you should be going all in on INT with a side of mind, and having your vigor around level 40 at least. You also need to stack sorcery enchanting effects, like meteor staff, staff of loss, glint staff. Don't forget the crystal tears for huge magic boosts and the talismans that also bump magic damage. Depending on the fight, Terra Magica also works.

Sorcery is very overpowered if you do it right. Night Comet basically melts everything in the game, and the Moon-based spells add additional debuffs making magic even stronger.

If you have a problem with spirit ashes dying too fast, try tankier spirit summons. Melee-based tanks are a great pairing with a mage build, engvall is a great early game damage sponge and Dung Eater does great late game.

Of course, if you are playing blind, you don't really know any of this, and you probably spread out your stats so thinly that you ended up with only 50 int at the end game, and not necessarily understanding all the stacking effects which make magic a super power in the game.

[Fineous🔥]

Hey OP.......how can i put this in a proper way? 50 int is not enough for a endgame glinstone sorcerer wielding awesome spells like stars of ruin and comet Azur, thats enough for a wizard you hire for kids birthdays and.....thats all.

You need a more intelligent Elden Ring sorcerer my dude.....go and fetch Karolos burger king crown or something.

[SoundsOfNight]

You cute, innocent TC.

Behold - the power of Hobo magic (NG+5):

https://youtu.be/j4Zx54F6dTs?si=r8gwBf0HhjMwL_-C

[Casul Gamer]

Originally posted by Alby:

post stats/gear right meow or we're just gonna assume you don't know what you're doing

I used the best staff for my int. Up until 40 I used demi queen or whatever and then academy staff after. And yes I did upgrade my staves, but I didn't like upgrading past what I could buy infinite. If I had higher FP and allocated more blue flasks, I probably could have done better, but I didn't have stats for that bc I was also leveling STR, stamina, dex, and vigor.

[SoundsOfNight]

Originally posted by Casul Gamer:

Originally posted by Alby:

post stats/gear right meow or we're just gonna assume you don't know what you're doing

I used the best staff for my int. Up until 40 I used demi queen or whatever and then academy staff after. And yes I did upgrade my staves, but I didn't like upgrading past what I could buy infinite. If I had higher FP and allocated more blue flasks, I probably could have done better, but I didn't have stats for that bc I was also leveling STR, stamina, dex, and vigor.

Demiqueen staff is for low Int. You need a better staff.

[Casul Gamer]

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

You cute, innocent TC.

Behold - the power of Hobo magic (NG+5):

https://youtu.be/j4Zx54F6dTs?si=r8gwBf0HhjMwL_-C

That spell requires you to kill an end game boss before you get it. It also requires high FP or the spell stops casting. And a lot of bosses are very mobile. They can interrupt the cast before you get it off or if you do cast it, they might move out of the way.

[Casul Gamer]

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

Originally posted by Casul Gamer:

I used the best staff for my int. Up until 40 I used demi queen or whatever and then academy staff after. And yes I did upgrade my staves, but I didn't like upgrading past what I could buy infinite. If I had higher FP and allocated more blue flasks, I probably could have done better, but I didn't have stats for that bc I was also leveling STR, stamina, dex, and vigor.

Demiqueen staff is for low Int. You need a better staff.

Best staff for low int. AFter 40 I switched to the academy staff which was the best one for that level

[florianemory]

Originally posted by Casul Gamer:

Originally posted by Alby:

post stats/gear right meow or we're just gonna assume you don't know what you're doing

I used the best staff for my int. Up until 40 I used demi queen or whatever and then academy staff after. And yes I did upgrade my staves, but I didn't like upgrading past what I could buy infinite. If I had higher FP and allocated more blue flasks, I probably could have done better, but I didn't have stats for that

bc I was also leveling STR, stamina, dex, and vigor.

This is the problem. I am using an INT build, my strength and dex are enough to use Moonveil, that's it. Everything else was vigor, little bit of Mind for more FP, and small dose of Endurance to be able to cast spells quickly and repeatedly.

[Fineous🔥]

Dude.....i could (gladly) fix your build if you provide me all your stats and other details but seems like you are here to screech into the endless and cold internet void. Thats fine and dandy, relase some steam or........give me stat information.