Midra's Flame of Frenzy

[Maraxus]

Alright so, my main guy is a madness themed character and I finally got my hands on this spell, was super excited to have another frenzy spell.

I have to say I'm extremely underwhelmed by it. The madness buildup on self is ridiculous, the fp cost is extremely high, and unendurable frenzy seems to outperform it on damage. I REALLY want to like this spell because it's such a spectacle, but I really cannot justify its use from what I'm seeing here.

Have any of you guys figured out how to use it in a way that doesn't just get outperformed by unendurable frenzy? I'd love to know what the point of this spell is, and I'd hate to shelf something so crazy to use.

[juicy]

have you tried out the madness perfume bottle?

[tmg]

Have you found ANY good incantations? So far I've found 5, and they're all absolute JUNK. Honestly the performance and the terrible spells are my only complaints. I heard someone say they must be bugged or something, that is the only thing I can think of. Watchful spirit seemed like a joke spell to me.

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by juicy:

have you tried out the madness perfume bottle?

I have, it's actually my current weapon! Really pleased with it, and rolling sparks has crazy damage but I don't mention it often cause I don't want it nerfed.

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by tmg:

Have you found ANY good incantations? So far I've found 5, and they're all absolute JUNK. Honestly the performance and the terrible spells are my only complaints. I heard someone say they must be bugged or something, that is the only thing I can think of. Watchful spirit seemed like a joke spell to me.

No, now that you mention it I haven't. I don't have the faith to try Messmer's fireball, but I did get a heal that took 70 faith and it was extremely underwhelming. I haven't tried the discus ones yet though, could be decent.

[Sherudon]

It's pretty bad really, not that it can't work, it's like most of the spells, very meh but looks pretty, and yes, EF is far better, more hits, better aim, lower costs..

Funny enough I think the flame serpent spell is the best cost and use spell in the dlc.

All the flashy one's have dogwater damage and animation locks that are good luck in getting them off with these bosses.

To answer that the discus is good for long range but doesn't do much, and the fireball has a high chance of failing to generate the explosion, either due to being too high or hit out of the cast, shame too, it actually does good damage.

Further on, I think the triple golden arc is bugged as it takes three casts for one spell, it doesn't seem like it's meant to do that, so instead of 12fp it's more 36 and stamina cost?

[AlexIsACarrot]

Originally posted by Maraxus:

Originally posted by tmg:

Have you found ANY good incantations? So far I've found 5, and they're all absolute JUNK. Honestly the performance and the terrible spells are my only complaints. I heard someone say they must be bugged or something, that is the only thing I can think of. Watchful spirit seemed like a joke spell to me.

I don't have the faith to try Messmer's fireball

running a pyromancer build rn and messmer's orb is cool but enemies can knock you out of it if you're not careful

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by Sherudon:

It's pretty bad really, not that it can't work, it's like most of the spells, very meh but looks pretty, and yes, EF is far better, more hits, better aim, lower costs..

Funny enough I think the flame serpent spell is the best cost and use spell in the dlc.

All the flashy one's have dogwater damage and animation locks that are good luck in getting them off with these bosses.

To answer that the discus is good for long range but doesn't do much, and the fireball has a high chance of failing to generate the explosion, either due to being too high or hit out of the cast, shame too, it actually does good damage.

Further on, I think the triple golden arc is bugged as it takes three casts for one spell, it doesn't seem like it's meant to do that, so instead of 12fp it's more 36 and stamina cost?

Mmmm it's a shame to hear that it's not just me.

Does From usually buff things post launch? This is my first time being on-time for a DLC release in a fromsoft game.

[Sherudon]

I think the actual winner in the dlc is consumables more than spells.

Super bombs, FP regen, dragon form buff, super greases, arcane form... throwing meat at people..

[Chibbix]

Originally posted by tmg:

Have you found ANY good incantations? So far I've found 5, and they're all absolute JUNK. Honestly the performance and the terrible spells are my only complaints. I heard someone say they must be bugged or something, that is the only thing I can think of. Watchful spirit seemed like a joke spell to me.

You can get that new lightning that shoots off like, 20 rounds. Playing a str build, so I'm not using them, so it's hard to remember them all. Some really cool Pyromancys that are faith only requirements. Heal from Afar and Minor Erdtree seem totally awesome, and I can't wait to respec and try them. I might just make a new character again, tho, I'm really liking the Str build, rn.

You can get those multihiting "white ghost" glintstone spells, and if they're anything like the NPC ones, they're insane.

Plus theres that trinket that regens mana now. Honestly, seems like they were really generous to casters. Still using my Giant Killer and Crucible armor. Though that rapid fire crossbow makes an awesome backup for people trying to be annoying with range. I offhand that, for just in case.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by tmg:

Have you found ANY good incantations? So far I've found 5, and they're all absolute JUNK. Honestly the performance and the terrible spells are my only complaints. I heard someone say they must be bugged or something, that is the only thing I can think of. Watchful spirit seemed like a joke spell to me.

There's a new version of pest threads that's pretty good.

[juicy]

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

Originally posted by tmg:

Have you found ANY good incantations? So far I've found 5, and they're all absolute JUNK. Honestly the performance and the terrible spells are my only complaints. I heard someone say they must be bugged or something, that is the only thing I can think of. Watchful spirit seemed like a joke spell to me.

There's a new version of pest threads that's pretty good.

vanilla pest threads itself is still insanely strong.

[SpottedHare]

Originally posted by Maraxus:

Originally posted by juicy:

have you tried out the madness perfume bottle?

I have, it's actually my current weapon! Really pleased with it, and rolling sparks has crazy damage but I don't mention it often cause I don't want it nerfed.

soft subscribes to the same nerf buff philology as Bungie, what is being complained about the most on twitter.

[DarkFenix]

Knight's lightning spear is great, if you're running such a build. It's (finally) a straight upgrade over regular lightning spear. I'm liking fire serpent too, but generally the additions are more often a miss than a hit, especially the big flashy ones. None of this surprises me, magic has always been a mixed bag in Souls games, I'm just glad the DLC offers me something new to play around with.

I'm surprised there's no multi-shot fire serpent like the fire knights use though, seems like a no-brainer but it's not there.

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by SpottedHare:

Originally posted by Maraxus:

I have, it's actually my current weapon! Really pleased with it, and rolling sparks has crazy damage but I don't mention it often cause I don't want it nerfed.

soft subscribes to the same nerf buff philology as Bungie, what is being complained about the most on twitter.

Guess I need to get on twitter to start complaining if I want Midra's Flame to get any stronger

[Kraxiloth]

You need more of the Focus stat, friend. It helps a lot with Madness.