Guys, please stop summoning 2 players...

[Homelander]

It literally gives to the boss more than 5x health. 2 is enough to kill every single one and (if summoned player is experienced enough), easier.

I managed to see the end of the boss like 15% times with 3 players. Most of them the host dies when the boss was at 50% HP.

So, just gamble it and summon one guy (who looks like the best). And do your thing.

Trust me :)

[McC1oud]

I concur, keep cycling players until you get one that can handle your problem. Also when you summon another player, do not summon an AI aswell as it has the same effect. Quality over quantity if you want to succeed.

Summon 2 people if they are your buddies and have a plan.

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

I feel bad for the ppl who keep summoning me as the one summon (plus that npc chick) for the lion.

Like, I know I look like what I'm doing with dual colossals, but I'm clearly still undertuned and undertrained for this fight.

Also, I didn't realize the AI partner messes up the scaling too...so when it's 2+1ai, boss is scaled as though it's 3 human players?

[Homelander]

Well, for me, a good spirit will be enough for a boss fight. Especially mimic tear +10. You don't get a coop scale. They can be a tank, sometimes they clutch the boss, and it is literally you. I always choose mimic tear over a sign xD.

[Gienah Corvi]

I generally agree. I've had a lot more wins helping people as a duo than a trio. And some of the NPC summons just do not work well with certain builds, like Leda with a ranged/mage build. Leda just sits there like an idiot while making the boss much stronger.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

I experience that with the first coop in the DLC boss fight. So, now, I decided to finish the game by myself first before I try coop. I also realized that no one seems to be around for summoning this time. It could be that my level is too high for the coop crowd. Or that everyone figured out COOP happens to make it harder to beat the boss lol.

[Viper]

I have found that summoned players often die on these bosses. It hasn't helped me that much.

[Gienah Corvi]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

I experience that with the first coop in the DLC boss fight. So, now, I decided to finish the game by myself first before I try coop. I also realized that no one seems to be around for summoning this time. It could be that my level is too high for the coop crowd. Or that everyone figured out COOP happens to make it harder to beat the boss lol.

It's really just nice as a distraction. So they ping pong to the other NPC/player and then you can attack them, then the NPC/player attacks them and then you do it all over again. That's the basic tactic that works quite well on a lot of bosses. But having 2 helpers is generally bad. Especially in the DLC since everything has so much HP (and does so much damage) that most people end up running out of flasks near the end.

It becomes a game of (losing) numbers with 2 helpers.

[Homelander]

Originally posted by Gienah Corvi:

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

I experience that with the first coop in the DLC boss fight. So, now, I decided to finish the game by myself first before I try coop. I also realized that no one seems to be around for summoning this time. It could be that my level is too high for the coop crowd. Or that everyone figured out COOP happens to make it harder to beat the boss lol.

It's really just nice as a distraction. So they ping pong to the other NPC/player and then you can attack them, then the NPC/player attacks them and then you do it all over again. That's the basic tactic that works quite well on a lot of bosses. But having 2 helpers is generally bad. Especially in the DLC since everything has so much HP (and does so much damage) that most people end up running out of flasks near the end.

It becomes a game of (losing) numbers with 2 helpers.

Yeah. It's probably feeling much safer and the action keeps running in 3 players. But it's not the best option to win.

[Umbral Priestess]

It is annoying, i stopped summong real players years ago because it actually was making the boss harder. and i've never done more than 1, spirit ashes are enough if you need a distraction.

[Homelander]

Originally posted by Umbral Priestess:

It is annoying, i stopped summong real players years ago because it actually was making the boss harder. and i've never done more than 1, spirit ashes are enough if you need a distraction.

Agreed. But it's fun and a good way to make new friends/partners. Sometimes I send friend invite to the people if we become a good duo, and help each other in future. I do this since Dark Souls 1 and made lotta good game partners xD.

[Gabe Newell]

Idk. It’s extremely fun to play with two others. Only certain bosses are way harder with 3 people. I mean the game is challenging. That’s the point of it

[Rena Ichigawa]

Never! I shall continue to summon five friends, and rofl stomp the game because its fun. Already beat it all solo anyways.

[SHOCKNUTZ]

funniest one is radagon with 3 players. random agro and hammer swings and teleports.
or sewer mohg with his backhand swings catching everyone.

[marek.jop1]

Guys, please summon as many players as you want. Play the game the way you want to play. You own the game. It is yours!

[Gob]

The other annoying thing is when you get summoned to a DLC boss fight and the host has a low Scadutree Blessing level. The host's blessing level gets applied to those he summoned.

That, along with the 3-player boss buff, can make some DLC bosses really tough.

Its not hard to find 20 Scadutree Fragments and get to blessing level 10. But some hosts just want to fly through the DLC and so almost ignore collecting fragments.