Respectfully, what moron put Hornsent's summon sign INSIDE the boss room?

[Unforgivable Toon Fun]

Yeah, so in the DLC, an npc named "Hornsent" wants you to summon him to help you fight a particular boss (that I won't name for spoilers) that's tied to his lore. Its the final boss for his questline I believe, but when you get to that boss fight for some reason his summon sign is IN the boss room.

Not before the boss fogwall you enter like in almost every souls game instance, its DURING this particular boss fight that you were supposed to summon him to properly complete his questline. I had to look it up because I didn't see or know the damn thing was even there when entering, not to mention I was target locked on to boss and also focused on trying to retrieve my souls when I lost them during every boss attempt so I feel like in hindsight, it still is a bit silly that you'd have to summon that npc during that particular fight amidst all the chaos, that it just seams quite miss-able, especially if you're trying to focus on staying alive in that fight.

I just thought that was a bit silly frankly that it was implemented that way for this fight, and then once you beat the boss Hornsent is in the arena and hes sad that he didn't get summoned....

Man he seriously shoulda found a better parking spot for that summon sign, my goodness...

[Anaxa]

Wait until you find someone that put a message on the summon sign

Yes it's was a dumb idea

[Unforgivable Toon Fun]

Originally posted by アナクサ:

Wait until you find someone that put a message on the summon sign

Yes it's was a dumb idea

Haha, aye I did hear online somewhere that this was an issue too

[king_of_jamaica]

There's an optional boss that does the same thing. I had to look up how to summon the NPC since there was no sign outside the arena, and it was pretty hard to see on the ground inside the arena too.

[Shield]

Hornsent is pretty goated in that fight. Bleed procs the boss, because his sign is already in the boss room, the boss is still tuned as if it was just you fighting him. Yeah, it can be a little cumbersome to get him on the field, but that's about the worst of it. I'd take that over the stat bump boss would get had you been able to summon him outside.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Agreed. A really unintelligent move on From's part.

[MeldinX2]

They do the same for another NPC quest later on with an optional boss. It's annoying since the boss are on you in like 5 seconds and are hitting you like 6 times every 5 seconds aswell making it really hard to get to the summon sign then press it and then change it to ''Yes'' in order to summon it. Making you waste atleast 2 potions if not more.

[Fried Noodles]

That's where Sif was in Dark Souls 1 when you were fighting Manus in the DLC.

[UrbanNoodles]

You actually want the summon sign to be in the arena, by the way.

[Unforgivable Toon Fun]

Originally posted by owlBear:

Hornsent is pretty goated in that fight. Bleed procs the boss, because his sign is already in the boss room, the boss is still tuned as if it was just you fighting him. Yeah, it can be a little cumbersome to get him on the field, but that's about the worst of it. I'd take that over the stat bump boss would get had you been able to summon him outside.

Ah it’s more so I didn’t even know his summon sign was there, cause I was so focused on the boss fight itself I didn’t notice one small summon sign to the back corner amidst all the other glowing nonsense happening in the arena

[Etteragic]

That's crazy. You should check out radahn boss in caelid

[MeldinX2]

Originally posted by UrbanNoodles:

You actually want the summon sign to be in the arena, by the way.

If they put it in the arena then they could atleast let the boss chill a couple of seconds before jumping you and doing a 5-6 combo attack.

[Unforgivable Toon Fun]

Originally posted by Etteragic:

That's crazy. You should check out radahn boss in caelid

Yes but Radahn’s fight’s a bit of a different exception, it’s purposely set up that way, where it’s like a big raid boss that’s on the other side of the map, and all the summonable npc’s are clearly laid out on the field for you to bring them in before you all head further towards Radahn, in this case it was a smaller arena and I had no idea it was going to work that way. You can’t really compare those 2 boss fights like that, one was set up to allow you be able to summon allies in the arena without getting gobsmacked within the first 3 seconds, and this other one’s a smaller arena fight where the boss is on you quicker then a bullet

[靐]

So you can feel the same when people are trying to use their summons.
0.000001 seconds combat in -> boss starts spammin AOE stuff across the map

[Saihai]

It is not the only one, there is another at the top of the mountain boss which is just as hard to activate (but so worth it with their ranting lines!)

[toughnails]

I'll just spoil it so people know it, there's another summon sign like this in Bayle the Dread's boss room. It's Igon, you have to follow his quest line, then summon him INSIDE Bayle's arena, otherwise you miss out on his armor set + weapons.