Why the heals!!!!!

[Simpie Senpai]

Answer: Tiche as a summon has an HP debuff and extra effects I didn't know about. Because I'm dumb. X_X

It's insane that the bosses can power heal during fights! I'm in New Game +3 at level 150, and these bosses are healing at an unbelievable rate. The dragon, for instance, was regaining about 15% of its HP every 20 seconds.

This is giving me serious Dark Souls 1 flashbacks, where you needed 1,000 perfectly timed hits to win. By the end of the fight, my hands felt as exhausted as if I'd just finished a season of Street Fighter.

[Zefar]

Dark Souls 1 did not have any bosses that healed.

You could kill a lot of bosses very easily and later on if you just upgraded some of the more powerful weapons to max it would take maybe 10 ish hits to kill a boss.

Along with 20 healing potions and armor that actually makes a difference.

You have forgotten how easy Dark Souls 1 is.

[Vyor_Lifeblood]

Which dragon? I don't remember any of them healing?

[Zukabazuka]

To give some info why he is so wrong about post I shall post boss health.
1. Asylum Demon 813hp
2. Gargolyes 999hp you face 2-3 of them.
3. Capra Demon 1,176hp
4. Centipede Demon 3,432hp
5. Gaping Dragon 4,660hp
Well there are more but not a single boss reach over 10,000 health on first playthrough.
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/bosses
Four kings is the closest one with nearly 10k health for those 5 spawns. But on average those number I posted are the norm for first playthrough.

So anyone thinking Elden Ring somehow has same HP values as Dark Soul 1 clearly need to replay it to actually see how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ EASY the first game was. Elden ring has almost always over 10k health on majority of the bosses.

[Simpie Senpai]

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

Which dragon? I don't remember any of them healing?

That undead one north of the first map area.

[Simpie Senpai]

Originally posted by Zukabazuka:

To give some info why he is so wrong about post I shall post boss health.
1. Asylum Demon 813hp
2. Gargolyes 999hp you face 2-3 of them.
3. Capra Demon 1,176hp
4. Centipede Demon 3,432hp
5. Gaping Dragon 4,660hp
Well there are more but not a single boss reach over 10,000 health on first playthrough.
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/bosses
Four kings is the closest one with nearly 10k health for those 5 spawns. But on average those number I posted are the norm for first playthrough.

So anyone thinking Elden Ring somehow has same HP values as Dark Soul 1 clearly need to replay it to actually see how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ EASY the first game was. Elden ring has almost always over 10k health on majority of the bosses.

I'm not sure how this is relevant to my post. I'm specifically comparing Elden Ring bosses to the bosses in the Elden Ring DLC, and nothing else. Also, the joke about a 1000 butt pokes was a long running meme. Sooo, you clearly wern't a dark souls fan at the time.

[Vyor_Lifeblood]

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

Which dragon? I don't remember any of them healing?

That undead one north of the first map area.

... that thing heals?

[Rain]

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

That undead one north of the first map area.

... that thing heals?

Maybe if damage is so bad the boss goes like "let me heal that scratch to show you how useless you are"?

[Simpie Senpai]

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

That undead one north of the first map area.

... that thing heals?

About every 20 seconds. I was running about him buffing myself with spells and watched him go from 20% hp to 50%. This was a repeated thing on my second fight. I died when I went to last hit and his HP bounced to 30%.

[Vyor_Lifeblood]

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

... that thing heals?

About every 20 seconds. I was running about him buffing myself with spells and watched him go from 20% hp to 50%. This was a repeated thing on my second fight. I died when I went to last hit and his HP bounced to 30%.

He... didn't do that for me. Sounds like something was bugged.

[Rain]

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

... that thing heals?

About every 20 seconds. I was running about him buffing myself with spells and watched him go from 20% hp to 50%. This was a repeated thing on my second fight. I died when I went to last hit and his HP bounced to 30%.

I can guarantee you it surely is not 20 seconds unless i shreded him way to fast to even see that.

[Simpie Senpai]

Originally posted by Rain:

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

... that thing heals?

Maybe if damage is so bad the boss goes like "let me heal that scratch to show you how useless you are"?

Lol, maybe. My hammer has 1400 damage. Honestly, I think it might be the undead part. I can't confirm but I threw two holy pots at him in the third and last fight and I got a clean kill. Maybe that's the trick, holy.

[Zefar]

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

I'm not sure how this is relevant to my post. I'm specifically comparing Elden Ring bosses to the bosses in the Elden Ring DLC, and nothing else. Also, the joke about a 1000 butt pokes was a long running meme. Sooo, you clearly wern't a dark souls fan at the time.

It wasn't a meme. I was there when it got to PC. Never heard anything about poking a bosses 1000 times.
You killed bosses so quickly in Dark Souls 1 by just using any decent weapon that you leveled up a bit that no one would get to that point.

You could kill gargoyle in the start with basically 4 hits if you buffed your weapon.

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

About every 20 seconds. I was running about him buffing myself with spells and watched him go from 20% hp to 50%. This was a repeated thing on my second fight. I died when I went to last hit and his HP bounced to 30%.

None of the dragons I've killed in the DLC and there have been quite a lot of them have healed themselves even once. On NG+ too.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

That undead one north of the first map area.

... that thing heals?

It does not. OP is likely using Spirit Ash Tiche whom has two effects from her burn attack.
1) A DoT from the blackflame typical effect.
2) An HP debuff (a different bar iirc?) that vanishes after the debuff expires making it look like they healed but they did not, in fact, heal.

The perk of the debuff is if you kill them while it is active ta-dah fight slightly easier, else it vanishes and its back to normal except the part removed from the DoT effect. Since Tiche can keep spamming it odds are you will benefit from it.

[Rain]

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

Originally posted by Rain:

Maybe if damage is so bad the boss goes like "let me heal that scratch to show you how useless you are"?

Lol, maybe. My hammer has 1400 damage. Honestly, I think it might be the undead part. I can't confirm but I threw two holy pots at him in the third and last fight and I got a clean kill. Maybe that's the trick, holy.

Oh yeah, holy definitely annihilates those guys within seconds.

[Simpie Senpai]

Originally posted by Vyor_Lifeblood:

Originally posted by Simpie Senpai:

About every 20 seconds. I was running about him buffing myself with spells and watched him go from 20% hp to 50%. This was a repeated thing on my second fight. I died when I went to last hit and his HP bounced to 30%.

He... didn't do that for me. Sounds like something was bugged.

That's what I thought at first. But it's happened on another boss too. Sorry, I'm terrible with names. One of the others was that Mage Knight with the fire/mage attacks in the castle. That Knight would randomly heal about 10% of her HP. I thought maybe is was a weapon art thing and poor Lepa being smacked around.