"If it's not fun, why bother"

[Vermilion Knight]

Reggie Fils-Aimé actually knew what he was talking about.
This DLC has been an absolute slog of a playthrough.

I don't want to look around for anything because you travel 2000 miles to find a glovewort and a mushroom while randomly looking at flowers and goats.

I don't want to fight any bosses because they are so annoyingly powerful and have 3-5 AOE 16 hit attacks that I can't even hit them half the time.

I don't want to fight enemies because from the frail skeleton to the mighty knight they all 2 shot you with the most basic attacks and have infinite poise so your attacks do nothing 45% of the time.

I don't want to do anything! This DLC is just a hellscape of unfun half baked content.
FromSoftware has really tanked. They have just worried about the "git guds" complaining about difficulty rather than making anything enjoyable. I've beaten every souls game and I've beaten Sekiro. This DLC is just the worst parts of all of them.

[Recidivous]

If you're not having fun, that's your prerogative. I'm not telling you to press on if the DLC is a slog to you.

However, I'm having fun even with all the difficulty I'm experiencing. I enjoy this sort of challenge.

This is definitely not for everyone, and it's okay if you ended up not liking it.

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by Recidivous:

If you're not having fun, that's your prerogative. I'm not telling you to press on if the DLC is a slog to you.

However, I'm having fun even with all the difficulty I'm experiencing. I enjoy this sort of challenge.

This is definitely not for everyone, and it's okay if you ended up not liking it.

I just don't understand why they would take the Elden Ring formula which made them millions of dollars, and then completely throw it in the dumpster for a "Challenge"

[symphony]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by Recidivous:

If you're not having fun, that's your prerogative. I'm not telling you to press on if the DLC is a slog to you.

However, I'm having fun even with all the difficulty I'm experiencing. I enjoy this sort of challenge.

This is definitely not for everyone, and it's okay if you ended up not liking it.

I just don't understand why they would take the Elden Ring formula which made them millions of dollars, and then completely throw it in the dumpster for a "Challenge"

what does money have to do with game design. why don't you play assassins creed 12? it makes tons of money

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by symphony:

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

I just don't understand why they would take the Elden Ring formula which made them millions of dollars, and then completely throw it in the dumpster for a "Challenge"

what does money have to do with game design. why don't you play assassins creed 12? it makes tons of money

It typically does not mean anything, but in the case of Elden Ring, it provided enjoyment to more people outside of the Dark Souls series. It was the most accepted of the franchises, because more people had fun playing it. Why not use the formula of Game Design that made your game successful? It's just crazy how different the DLC is from the base game, completely unfun and boring.

[Kleerex]

Looks like From Software took the "It's just like Dark Souls!" meme a bit too seriously. Now Shadow of the Erdtree DLC is the Dark Souls of DLCs!

[Frank Morgan]

Feels like this DLC was designed for level 1, wretch, club only, no hit guys, who needed more challenge.

[Recidivous]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

Originally posted by Recidivous:

If you're not having fun, that's your prerogative. I'm not telling you to press on if the DLC is a slog to you.

However, I'm having fun even with all the difficulty I'm experiencing. I enjoy this sort of challenge.

This is definitely not for everyone, and it's okay if you ended up not liking it.

I just don't understand why they would take the Elden Ring formula which made them millions of dollars, and then completely throw it in the dumpster for a "Challenge"

What was the Elden Ring formula? It was a game about exploration and boss challenges. Nothing different from what the DLC gave us, I would argue.

[paincanbefun]

>I don't want to look around for anything
>I don't want to fight any bosses
>I don't want to fight enemies
>I don't want to do anything!

ok, so... go do something else? the level of entitlement is astounding

[Despiser]

Originally posted by Recidivous:

If you're not having fun, that's your prerogative. I'm not telling you to press on if the DLC is a slog to you.

However, I'm having fun even with all the difficulty I'm experiencing. I enjoy this sort of challenge.

This is definitely not for everyone, and it's okay if you ended up not liking it.

Not so straightforward, in the base game I loved exploring and finding new and rare gear. In order to do that I had to kill all the bosses off, not because I particularly enjoyed doing it. The DLC is no different. I just have to decide if it’s worth it.

[Michael the Meek]

I feel like the devs want you to be max level for the dlc lol

[Sweagen]

Originally posted by Mew:

I feel like the devs want you to be max level for the dlc lol

I mean, we have had 2 years to level.....

[paincanbefun]

Originally posted by Mew:

I feel like the devs want you to be max level for the dlc lol

i went in at 120, you just need upgrade items from the new content. there is no max level

[Vermilion Knight]

Originally posted by Frank Morgan:

Feels like this DLC was designed for level 1, wretch, club only, no hit guys, who needed more challenge.

This is exactly how I feel. It's almost like they knew people blew through their game with the broken rivers of blood builds and instead of balancing the game they just accommodated the DLC to fit the most niche player bases.

[Dailao]

Originally posted by Vermilion Knight:

I don't want to look around for anything because you travel 2000 miles to find a glovewort and a mushroom while randomly looking at flowers and goats.

Personally I do like exploring every corner and I like the different flair of the areas. They do seem rather empty though compared to the main game. I agree with you about the bosses though, way too overtuned.

[Agoraphobic Meep]

Cause SOTE is fun to some of us, and we like it. Some of us are fine with difficulty in exchange for engaging gameplay, even if that difficulty turns off some people. Some of us like exploring, some of us like going through a bit of pain to feel satisfied, even if others don't.

Games would be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boring if we all thought the same and enjoyed the same things, right?