Your thoughts on Rellana?

[Elymnir]

So, I just beat Rellana on my fifth attempt and, while she was indeed quite awesome, I can't really like this fight overall.
My issue with her is that she's got too much DS2 difficulty sprinkled over her general difficulty. Like it's taking it just a notch too far.

Note that being fast and comboing isn't the issue here, but the fact that her attacks are glued to you like a homing missile, she can't be staggered (but can be guard broken) and you can only hit once, maybe twice, between each assault.
The homing in particular kills any meaningful sense of positionning. You're really forced to wait for her to finish, hit once, then wait again.
And I think the fight would be much more fair without those issues. At least Malenia could be staggered, which served to even the odds facing her waterfowl. With Rellana, I think it's just overtuned because of the homing and the aggressiveness.

I wonder how other player feel about this boss. You can "skill issue" me all you want, I'm not denying that since I'm a pretty average player. But I do believe she has just enough unfairness sprinkled all over to make me not like this fight as much as I would.

[Key]

I love the way she looks, I love the cool factor of her animation and the boss concept. I find the fight to suffer from Waterfowl Dance syndrome.

And not only her, after a couple of bosses I get the vibe that they've dropped the Souls approach of "every bit of damage can be avoided" in favor of "If the players figure out how to do it hitless, cool, but it's not our problem."

Overall I'm liking the DLC, but it feels more like a fantasy Hack'n'Slash than a Souls game.

[TERRØR♕]

Originally posted by Elymnir:

So, I just beat Rellana on my fifth attempt and, while she was indeed quite awesome, I can't really like this fight overall.
My issue with her is that she's got too much DS2 difficulty sprinkled over her general difficulty. Like it's taking it just a notch too far.

Note that being fast and comboing isn't the issue here, but the fact that her attacks are glued to you like a homing missile, she can't be staggered (but can be guard broken) and you can only hit once, maybe twice, between each assault.
The homing in particular kills any meaningful sense of positionning. You're really forced to wait for her to finish, hit once, then wait again.
And I think the fight would be much more fair without those issues. At least Malenia could be staggered, which served to even the odds facing her waterfowl. With Rellana, I think it's just overtuned because of the homing and the aggressiveness.

I wonder how other player feel about this boss. You can "skill issue" me all you want, I'm not denying that since I'm a pretty average player. But I do believe she has just enough unfairness sprinkled all over to make me not like this fight as much as I would.

did you beat her with summons or solo? just curious because for me she was waay too hard to beat solo so i had to summon mimic tear. Ive beat all fromsoft souls games 20+ times (except ds2) and it feels odd to me that she was so insanly hard. Was i missing a lot of blessing? maybe i dont know

[Faust Wither]

she hot, but cold...

[brago90]

I like the boss and there is also an alternative path to get to the next area in case you get stuck.

[Swimfan]

Originally posted by Elymnir:

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Found a strategy that worked for me pretty fast (Milady+Jump-thrusts via that new ash of war) so it was a matter of learning her moves and weave in my own jump-thrusts. In doing so I actually had a very good time while I (still) struggle with the lion like there's no tomorrow.
I dunno ... somehow I just love her (music/armor/theming) but I do agree that she feels the kind of "overboard" that I expected from From in this DLC. It's honestly a miracle that I've beaten her solo without ashes since I never ever finished Godskin Duo/Maliketh or the very final boss without them. Maybe the doge-/jump-attack strategy only worked in my favor this one time but I find her strangely engaging.

That being said: All bosses of this DLC feel like they need some tweaking tbh.. From is catering to elitist-/and pro gamers with the DLC already by adding this new upgrade mechanic.

[Swimfan]

Originally posted by brago90:

I like the boss and there is also an alternative path to get to the next area in case you get stuck.

Really? How :-D (in case next time I wanna skip/upgrade first like the casual I am).

[Gui]

There is nothing about "DS2 difficulty" in this boss. She's a Elden Ring boss with DS3 speed. I like her, but I do think she's really fast and can frame trap you easily, specially with Glintblade active. I really don't like that some attack, if you miss one dodge, you get the full combo in your face and probably die (her special moon attack is an example)

[pAce]

I cant wait for you guys to get to Messmer. If you think Rennala was bad... :|

[Elymnir]

Originally posted by TERRØR♕:

Originally posted by Elymnir:

So, I just beat Rellana on my fifth attempt and, while she was indeed quite awesome, I can't really like this fight overall.
My issue with her is that she's got too much DS2 difficulty sprinkled over her general difficulty. Like it's taking it just a notch too far.

Note that being fast and comboing isn't the issue here, but the fact that her attacks are glued to you like a homing missile, she can't be staggered (but can be guard broken) and you can only hit once, maybe twice, between each assault.
The homing in particular kills any meaningful sense of positionning. You're really forced to wait for her to finish, hit once, then wait again.
And I think the fight would be much more fair without those issues. At least Malenia could be staggered, which served to even the odds facing her waterfowl. With Rellana, I think it's just overtuned because of the homing and the aggressiveness.

I wonder how other player feel about this boss. You can "skill issue" me all you want, I'm not denying that since I'm a pretty average player. But I do believe she has just enough unfairness sprinkled all over to make me not like this fight as much as I would.

did you beat her with summons or solo? just curious because for me she was waay too hard to beat solo so i had to summon mimic tear. Ive beat all fromsoft souls games 20+ times (except ds2) and it feels odd to me that she was so insanly hard. Was i missing a lot of blessing? maybe i dont know

I tried her solo the first three times, using backhand blades (I'm so in love with this weapon) and Siluria's tree. Managed to get her to 1/4 health, but she did me in eventually. Then I tried with my trusty dungeater and got her on the second attempt (so five in total).

[Zogtar]

Originally posted by pAce:

I cant wait for you guys to get to Messmer. If you think Rennala was bad... :|

Rellana, Rennala is still drooling in Liurnia.

[I'm Not Sue]

Try using a different strategy than roll + R1. Its not hard with patient play and she's extremely susceptible to statuses but my hosts keep getting 1-shot 90% of the time because they dont know how to hold aggro.

[Eren Jäger]

i think the fight was amazing

[Alar]

Ecxuse you, you're not enjoying a knight boss n326 that just endlessly spams at you? How dare you sir! Peak creativity and fun right here.

[Sedeac]

Loved the fight.

[Azyle]

I love the fight. Certainly a step up in difficulty but at the same time I didn't think it was unfair. That said, you better nuke her in phase 2 as she has VERY little downtime for you to heal.