Not having fun...

[Alex(ITA)]

I'm approaching the pvp of this game and the more I go on the more I realize that it's just a load of ♥♥♥♥, the spears and thrusts in general are broken, everyone presses maybe 2 commands per fight, for example the greatswords only make 1 attack (the thrusts obviously) and sometimes a sweep, not to mention all the toxic builds with the sleep or madness effect, git gud is useless if the pvp is done badly...

P.S. These are my OPINIONS don't kill me if you don't agree, I wrote to receive to discuss pvp and maybe to receive advice so avoid the insults thanks

[Malthar]

just dont do the pvp?

[1100011]

Here's a youtuber very much into Elden Ring PVP:
ChaseTheBro.
I watch him every now and again to get a 'feel' of PVP. There's plenty of variety going on there, both from the opponents and from the Bro. Of course he's so good he could make a broken ladle work :) .

[SoundsOfNight]

My biggest gripe is 99% of players are either using Moonveil or dual Scavenger swords. It's sad!

[Shield]

They should make PvP a requirement to finish the DLC

[1100011]

Also: check this thread out:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1245620/discussions/0/4299321616494539837
maybe get into contact with the OP, he seems very keen on guiding people that are new.

(edit: link to main topic in stead of to one of the comments)

[zab]

yeah it sucks

[Marmarmar34]

Originally posted by owlBear:

They should make PvP a requirement to finish the DLC

Yes, make the game an always-online live service.

[Kskaudonsu]

PVP in Elden Ring is a meme. The damage scaling was not properly calibrated for it and no amount of consumables or Vigor leveling will change that. You can argue that it's more cut throat this way, but I've played thousands of hours of PVP in souls games and in a duel that ends with one or two hits, there's just not much of a back-and-forth to it and it becomes incredibly shallow. If you want THOROUGHLY addictive PVP, I would suggest giving Dark Souls 2 a try. That was the pinnacle. Dark Souls 3 is a close second. Elden Ring is a PVE game.

[burn1none]

I think the PVP in Elden Ring has got to be the most disproportionate experience of all the Souls series for me, sometimes you get a great invader and have a nice little duel but most of the time it's 3 gankers fighting one absolutely busted invader exploiting something dumb like Storm Axe. Dark Souls 1 did it perfectly, you could enable PVP solo without opening the damn flood gates. I think that also encouraged invaders to use less busted builds and I had some of my best duels in that game. every ER invasion feels like one side trying to cheese the other.

[Key]

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

My biggest gripe is 99% of players are either using Moonveil or dual Scavenger swords. It's sad!

Welcome to the age of people looking up how to play instead of coming up with their own ideas. Thousands of options and everyone does the same thing, it's appalling how uncreative people are.

[Alex(ITA)]

Originally posted by csand:

Spears and thrusts are only a problem if you keep doing the same thing. Especially rolling away from them. Change your strategy. I used to fear them as well but once you realise they are a one trick pony, they aren't really any worse than any other weapon.

I have a harder time vs that damn giant slayer hammer for some reason. (the charged attacks always fake me out)

I understand, but what should I do if the classic idiot with 2 spears starts to get on me and starts spamming attacks, I mean... if I don't dodge... 2 hits and I'm dead

[Alex(ITA)]

Originally posted by Malthar:

just dont do the pvp?

bro... after pve in EVERY game there is pvp, it doesn't matter what game it is, if a game doesn't have pvp it can be as good as you want but after a while you get bored, not everyone has the money to afford all the games they want and very often free to play games are rubbish so saying "Don't do pvp" is an ok option however if I started this discussion it's because I actually want to learn and I want advice from those who know more...

[𝑀𝓊𝑔𝑒𝓃]

The pvp in this game is a ♥♥♥♥ show , the moment you see a twin spear user , pull out your own , give them a taste of their own medicine

[Malthar]

Originally posted by Alex(ITA):

Originally posted by Malthar:

just dont do the pvp?

bro... after pve in EVERY game there is pvp, it doesn't matter what game it is, if a game doesn't have pvp it can be as good as you want but after a while you get bored, not everyone has the money to afford all the games they want and very often free to play games are rubbish so saying "Don't do pvp" is an ok option however if I started this discussion it's because I actually want to learn and I want advice from those who know more...

You were just complaining, not once did you ask for tips or help. Im just gonn assume you dont like pvp.

[zmanbuilder]

Do not be a glass cannon, health should be your highest stat.

I'm doing a full crucible knight build with siluria tree great spear, and i'm doing okay in pvp, the tail swing can roll catch and the shoulder charge makes them run, and my weapon does bonkers damage with its special attack, if it hits. Not optimal but it is fun.