New DLC better ruin seamless co-op for good

[Bazongo]

You shouldnt be able to get carried through the game without being invaded. I hope Miyazaki has added some code blocking to their mod, and also send a cease and desist letter. PVP has been part of the souls franchise forever and they arent respecting fromsoft's vision by avoiding it when in co-op mode.

[mpcgannon]

Hahaha. So EVERYONE here, supporting the mod or against it, has no friends! Hahaha
I, wait, I I'm here...

[RyuKazé]

Postat inițial de mpcgannon:

Hahaha. So EVERYONE here, supporting the mod or against it, has no friends! Hahaha
I, wait, I I'm here...

Only if you're whining about it

[Madao]

Postat inițial de RyuKaze:

Postat inițial de mpcgannon:

Hahaha. So EVERYONE here, supporting the mod or against it, has no friends! Hahaha
I, wait, I I'm here...

Only if you're whining about it :s_xd:

what if I whine about people whining? does that still count? I mean, I don't have any friends but I dunno

[Shinkiro]

Postat inițial de RyuzakiMorgoth:

Wrong. The invader's entire goal is to hinder an host's progress. That is effectively stopping their game.
There is no other reason for an invader to... invade you..

Not wrong. The goal is to hinder them yes, that doesn't mean stop all progress the moment you are invaded. If they want to pause progress that's on them, but they don't get to whine and blame others for purposefully stalling their own gameplay when its not mandatory to do so.

[FinaL]

Well I troll invaders too. Let them come. And when they found me and are nearly at my place... I disconnect the LAN just to see them howling in frustration ^^

What should I say: imho grieving and trolling is a quite animalistic way to have "fun".

To have fun in expense of the fun of others is just mean and says a lot about your personality - but well, it's just my opinion.

[Dragonirian]

Postat inițial de SHOCKNUTZ:

Postat inițial de Bazongo:

if it allows people to pirate and play online that's even more justification to use legal action to stop it for good

the mod doesn't support pirated/cracked versions. it has to run through steam's servers.

Yes it does since steam api can be subsidised and playing coop on pirated version is only possible because of seamless coop.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Postat inițial de Shinkiro:

Postat inițial de RyuzakiMorgoth:

Wrong. The invader's entire goal is to hinder an host's progress. That is effectively stopping their game.
There is no other reason for an invader to... invade you..

Not wrong. The goal is to hinder them yes, that doesn't mean stop all progress the moment you are invaded. If they want to pause progress that's on them, but they don't get to whine and blame others for purposefully stalling their own gameplay when its not mandatory to do so.

Except that if you are invaded, there are places you cannot go anymore because all that is going to do, is have the invader abuse enemy placement. You can try to twist and turn it any way you want. The game flow comes to an halt the moment you get invaded, because you cannot be simply doing what you were doing.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Postat inițial de FinaL:

Well I troll invaders too. Let them come. And when they found me and are nearly at my place... I disconnect the LAN just to see them howling in frustration ^^

What should I say: imho grieving and trolling is a quite animalistic way to have "fun".

To have fun in expense of the fun of others is just mean and says a lot about your personality - but well, it's just my opinion.

Then, you are pure cancer and you should get IP banned.

[FinaL]

haha salty

[SHOCKNUTZ]

Postat inițial de RyuzakiMorgoth:

Postat inițial de FinaL:

Well I troll invaders too. Let them come. And when they found me and are nearly at my place... I disconnect the LAN just to see them howling in frustration ^^

What should I say: imho grieving and trolling is a quite animalistic way to have "fun".

To have fun in expense of the fun of others is just mean and says a lot about your personality - but well, it's just my opinion.

Then, you are pure cancer and you should get IP banned.

nah this is good. i can imagine the invader players face after finally finding someone to invade after being in queue, buffing up and starting to run to look for the host, only to get the message they've been booted.

[SHOCKNUTZ]

Postat inițial de Dragonirian:

Postat inițial de SHOCKNUTZ:

the mod doesn't support pirated/cracked versions. it has to run through steam's servers.

Yes it does since steam api can be subsidised and playing coop on pirated version is only possible because of seamless coop.

Q) Does this worked for cracked/pirated games?
A) No, I'm also not going to be supporting these versions so please don't make bug reports about it

doesn't matter if people do something else to get around it. the mod does not support it.

[Shinkiro]

Postat inițial de RyuzakiMorgoth:

is have the invader abuse enemy placement.

Oh no... you mean invaders get invader benefits? like you get extra human players?. How dare they! "Abuse" is a massive exaggeration, at best they are a distraction.

Postat inițial de RyuzakiMorgoth:

You can try to twist and turn it any way you want. The game flow comes to an halt the moment you get invaded, because you cannot be simply doing what you were doing.

You can try and twist it all you want lol, the host team decides the flow of the game. You can simply progress towards the goal (the area boss), or carry on going wherever while keeping an eye out for the invader. Your progression forces the invader to act, there's absolutely no need to stop everything the moment an invasion happens. That's the choice of the host team and they are the one stalling the gameplay because they only want to engage in an advantageous position, well guess what so do invaders!

You're just taking away the threat of being fog walled (dungeon) so they can take their time with you instead, then people moan about it. It's even easier to engage in the open world with minimal mobs around but people will all sit in an open field where its dumb to attack you causing more stalling.

[echo_ML]

Also ima pop in unannounced and say that someone has asked Bamco is seamless is against ToS and they said yes.

[King of Games]

Postat inițial de echo_ML:

Also ima pop in unannounced and say that someone has asked Bamco is seamless is against ToS and they said yes.

i remember when angry invaders decided to spam bamcos support with emails crying about mods. Those poor people dont get paid enough

[Darth Invader]

Postat inițial de SHOCKNUTZ:

Postat inițial de RyuzakiMorgoth:

Then, you are pure cancer and you should get IP banned.

nah this is good. i can imagine the invader players face after finally finding someone to invade after being in queue, buffing up and starting to run to look for the host, only to get the message they've been booted.

This is what a host's face looks like when they get the invasion message:

https://youtu.be/jtdrKFgdMxI?si=zo9oQASOl2ZFYvJD