The DLC will be 20% the size of the world

[mpcgannon]

First of all we're not counting the underground areas. Second of all, the Weeping Peninsula is part of Limgrave. Look at the world map. Each area is color coded: Mt of giants is white, Lyndell is yellow, Liurnia blue, Caelid is red, and Limgrave is green. The Weeping Peninsula is the exact same pallet as the land it protrudes from. You look at each of these regions and they are each roughly 20% of the whole. Thus, the DLC the size of Limgrave, if not more, is going to be 20% the size of the world map. I'm willing to guess the "if not more" part refers to a new underground area. This DLC is going to be HUGE and I can't wait!!!

[Xengre]

No it wont.

Even if we assumed Weeping Peninsula was part of it there are several other areas far bigger. Limgrave doesn't come close to 20%.

As for Weeping being part of it that is highly debatable. It is color coded and shows up in the Site of Graces but in-game lore suggests it is completely separate just like Dragonbarrow is from Caelid. Even the map fragemnts define Weeping as not being part of Limgrave but "south of Limgrave" and also classify West & East Limgrave explicitly. The weather and overall region atmosphere is quite different and it is physically completely disconnected, only using a man-made structure to unite the two. Weeping and Limgrave also have an extremely clear enemy level divide which is unusual intra-region.

The DLC, itself, is stated to have around 10+ bosses. The wiki has Limgrave pegged at 22 bosses (approximately double that) and Weeping Peninsula adds another 10 (the same as the DLC, or close, on its own).

I think I saw some other reasons given why its not part of Limgrave, too, but I can neither remember them atm nor does it matter because even if it was being factored it is still not that big as pointed out.

[LuckyCheshire]

I think people are putting way too much weight on that statement. I read the original (translated, albeit badly) interview, and that comparison seemed very much like an offhanded comment and not any kind of careful measurement. The clips we've seen in the trailer, the number of bosses, and the statement that this will be FS's biggest DLC yet all seem to say that it will be fairly massive. I guess we'll just have to wait and see to find out exactly how big.

[rabureta]

Reminder that he also said the base game was only 30 hours.

[LuckyCheshire]

Originally posted by rabureta:

Reminder that he also said the base game was only 30 hours.

^

[Senki]

Originally posted by rabureta:

Reminder that he also said the base game was only 30 hours.

Also reminder that an area can be as big as another but still have much more content in it.

That limgrave statement doesn't mean that it will be the same amount of content or the same quality. I mean the bosses we got in the trailer alone look better than anything in the entirety of limgrave.

We also saw at least 3 or 4 different areas in the trailer while limgrave is all green forest type area. So it's very possible Miyazaki is underselling again

[Amins]

Originally posted by Xengre:

No it wont.

Even if we assumed Weeping Peninsula was part of it there are several other areas far bigger. Limgrave doesn't come close to 20%.

As for Weeping being part of it that is highly debatable. It is color coded and shows up in the Site of Graces but in-game lore suggests it is completely separate just like Dragonbarrow is from Caelid. Even the map fragemnts define Weeping as not being part of Limgrave but "south of Limgrave" and also classify West & East Limgrave explicitly. The weather and overall region atmosphere is quite different and it is physically completely disconnected, only using a man-made structure to unite the two. Weeping and Limgrave also have an extremely clear enemy level divide which is unusual intra-region.

The DLC, itself, is stated to have around 10+ bosses. The wiki has Limgrave pegged at 22 bosses (approximately double that) and Weeping Peninsula adds another 10 (the same as the DLC, or close, on its own).

I think I saw some other reasons given why its not part of Limgrave, too, but I can neither remember them atm nor does it matter because even if it was being factored it is still not that big as pointed out.

The game files literally segregate Weeping Peninsula from Limgrave in terms of enemy scaling. They are not the same area.

[mpcgannon]

Make all the excuses you want. You'll see.

[LuckyCheshire]

Originally posted by Amins:

Originally posted by Xengre:

No it wont.

Even if we assumed Weeping Peninsula was part of it there are several other areas far bigger. Limgrave doesn't come close to 20%.

As for Weeping being part of it that is highly debatable. It is color coded and shows up in the Site of Graces but in-game lore suggests it is completely separate just like Dragonbarrow is from Caelid. Even the map fragemnts define Weeping as not being part of Limgrave but "south of Limgrave" and also classify West & East Limgrave explicitly. The weather and overall region atmosphere is quite different and it is physically completely disconnected, only using a man-made structure to unite the two. Weeping and Limgrave also have an extremely clear enemy level divide which is unusual intra-region.

The DLC, itself, is stated to have around 10+ bosses. The wiki has Limgrave pegged at 22 bosses (approximately double that) and Weeping Peninsula adds another 10 (the same as the DLC, or close, on its own).

I think I saw some other reasons given why its not part of Limgrave, too, but I can neither remember them atm nor does it matter because even if it was being factored it is still not that big as pointed out.

The game files literally segregate Weeping Peninsula from Limgrave in terms of enemy scaling. They are not the same area.

Not that I disagree with your main point, but the game files also separate enemy scaling between Malenia's arena and the rest of the Haligtree. And iirc treats Stormveil Castle as being distinct from Limgrave as well. The game's scaling doesn't mean much.

[mpcgannon]

Originally posted by LuckyCheshire777:

Not that I disagree with your main point, but the game files also separate enemy scaling between Malenia's arena and the rest of the Haligtree. And iirc treats Stormveil Castle as being distinct from Limgrave as well. The game's scaling doesn't mean much.

They can try to poke holes because they don't want this DLC to be amazing, they just want to fume. The fact is Miyazaki under promises and over delivers.

[Zenata08]

Originally posted by mpcgannon:

First of all we're not counting the underground areas. Second of all, the Weeping Peninsula is part of Limgrave. Look at the world map. Each area is color coded: Mt of giants is white, Lyndell is yellow, Liurnia blue, Caelid is red, and Limgrave is green. The Weeping Peninsula is the exact same pallet as the land it protrudes from. You look at each of these regions and they are each roughly 20% of the whole. Thus, the DLC the size of Limgrave, if not more, is going to be 20% the size of the world map. I'm willing to guess the "if not more" part refers to a new underground area. This DLC is going to be HUGE and I can't wait!!!

It will be a bit bigger than Limgrave. If you listen to his interview , it does not need to be massive because he even said they are making it more dense and packed full of content compared to the original open , and at times … empty lands we have now .

I know people wanted it to be just as big as the original lands , but I rather have more legacy dungeons , more underground secret areas then to have more “empty areas”

[mpcgannon]

Originally posted by Zenata08:

Originally posted by mpcgannon:

First of all we're not counting the underground areas. Second of all, the Weeping Peninsula is part of Limgrave. Look at the world map. Each area is color coded: Mt of giants is white, Lyndell is yellow, Liurnia blue, Caelid is red, and Limgrave is green. The Weeping Peninsula is the exact same pallet as the land it protrudes from. You look at each of these regions and they are each roughly 20% of the whole. Thus, the DLC the size of Limgrave, if not more, is going to be 20% the size of the world map. I'm willing to guess the "if not more" part refers to a new underground area. This DLC is going to be HUGE and I can't wait!!!

It will be a bit bigger than Limgrave. If you listen to his interview , it does not need to be massive because he even said they are making it more dense and packed full of content compared to the original open , and at times … empty lands we have now .

I know people wanted it to be just as big as the original lands , but I rather have more legacy dungeons , more underground secret areas then to have more “empty areas”

My sentiments EXACTLY.

[patrol]

Keep in mind that Hidetaka Miyazaki always delivers the product he promised while downplaying what he's actually going to deliver and in addition is a massive troll xD. He has also apologiesed before for the whole lost izalith being the way it is and dropped a banger of a DLC later on.
The solution here is simple, you don't think the DLC will be worth it ? Don't preodrer/buy it. You can wait for the whole thing to go on sale after release. Nobody is forcing you to buy the thing and insulting people who buy it won't do anything

[MaiyagyGery]

Miyazaki said Elden Ring can be beaten in 30 hours and he is definitely wrong.

[potato]

Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:

Miyazaki said Elden Ring can be beaten in 30 hours and he is definitely wrong.

it can be and in much less than 30 hours too

[patrol]

Originally posted by MaiyagyGery:

Miyazaki said Elden Ring can be beaten in 30 hours and he is definitely wrong.

You can beat Elden ring in 2< hours but are you actually going to ?