What's the legit way of defeating a boss?

[Neo Typhoon Alpha]

So I just defeated Margit (or some said I was carried) I summoned a tarnished player and I finally won against him. I was told I was carried and I played horribly. What's the unwritten rule to say I finally beat a boss the legit way? Because how I see it, I'm using the tools to help me succeed and played it fair and square.

But It doesn't seem like that's the case when you're playing a game like Elden Ring. So my question is, how do I make a legit win against a boss? I would like to fight Margit again if that's even possible.

Edit: https://youtu.be/siu5uWqF3WE

[Dizzy Ladybug]

Originally posted by Cyborg Snake:

I was told I was carried and I played horribly.

who told you that? Just ignore them lol

[Darkstorm]

RL 1 bare hands no summons

[Neo Typhoon Alpha]

Originally posted by dizzy ladybug:

Originally posted by Cyborg Snake:

I was told I was carried and I played horribly.

who told you that? Just ignore them lol

Well they made sense, right? If I'm spirit summoning and using co-op to help me defeat bosses like Margit, I simply didn't beat the boss. I'm going to not use spirit summons or even co-op for bosses anymore. I feel LAME.

[Key]

Whatever reduces the boss HP bar to zero before yours is legit. Don't start catering to elitists cause they're never gonna be happy anyway, only do specific challenges if you feel like doing it for your own accomplishment.

[King of Yugoslavia]

Originally posted by Cyborg Snake:

So I just defeated Margit (or some said I was carried) I summoned a tarnished player and I finally won against him. I was told I was carried and I played horribly. What's the unwritten rule to say I finally beat a boss the legit way? Because how I see it, I'm using the tools to help me succeed and played it fair and square.

But It doesn't seem like that's the case when you're playing a game like Elden Ring. So my question is, how do I make a legit win against a boss? I would like to fight Margit again if that's even possible.

any way is legit, unless you use cheats, technically.

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by Cyborg Snake:

Originally posted by dizzy ladybug:

who told you that? Just ignore them lol

Well they made sense, right? If I'm spirit summoning and using co-op to help me defeat bosses like Margit, I simply didn't beat the boss. I'm going to not use spirit summons or even co-op for bosses anymore. I feel LAME. :Krotchy:

You cannot use spirit summons when you co-op. You can use spirit summons if cooperator is NPC. You can watch some no hit runs with people running all over a map getting stuff and levels before fighting Margit, and then they buff themselves to oblivion and kill Margit with few hits. It's more lame than fighting with summons at lvl 20, but it is what it is.

[Neo Typhoon Alpha]

Originally posted by Darkstorm:

Originally posted by Cyborg Snake:

Well they made sense, right? If I'm spirit summoning and using co-op to help me defeat bosses like Margit, I simply didn't beat the boss. I'm going to not use spirit summons or even co-op for bosses anymore. I feel LAME.

You cannot use spirit summons when you co-op. You can use spirit summons if cooperator is NPC. You can watch some no hit runs with people running all over a map getting stuff and levels before fighting Margit, and then they buff themselves to oblivion and kill Margit with few hits. It's more lame than fighting with summons at lvl 20, but it is what it is.

My apologies I should clarify. I used spirit summons during the other lost fights against Margit. I did use co-op summons some other times. But obviously separate and not together.

Originally posted by Key:

Whatever reduces the boss HP bar to zero before yours is legit. Don't start catering to elitists cause they're never gonna be happy anyway, only do specific challenges if you feel like doing it for your own accomplishment.

Originally posted by PAIN:

Originally posted by Cyborg Snake:

So I just defeated Margit (or some said I was carried) I summoned a tarnished player and I finally won against him. I was told I was carried and I played horribly. What's the unwritten rule to say I finally beat a boss the legit way? Because how I see it, I'm using the tools to help me succeed and played it fair and square.

But It doesn't seem like that's the case when you're playing a game like Elden Ring. So my question is, how do I make a legit win against a boss? I would like to fight Margit again if that's even possible.

any way is legit, unless you use cheats, technically.

Good to know. Thanks for the encouragement.

[Sham!]

it's fiiiiiine dude, as long as you are having fun you are winning

people that care about this kind of stuff went hollow long ago

[mayhem523]

Originally posted by Darkstorm:

RL 1 bare hands no summons

Also you have to use sime kind of obscure object as a controller... like a flute or a skateboard or something. You also should hold your breath from the moment you enter the fog wall until the boss is dead. Real souls players don't breathe during boss fights thats like playing on easy mode.

[Automaton-37467]

Originally posted by mayhem523:

Originally posted by Darkstorm:

RL 1 bare hands no summons

Also you have to use sime kind of obscure object as a controller... like a flute or a skateboard or something. You also should hold your breath from the moment you enter the fog wall until the boss is dead. Real souls players don't breathe during boss fights thats like playing on easy mode.

You also have to play gargield kart on a second monitor and beat nermal in the pizza cup

[Burns]

beating it

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by dizzy ladybug:

Originally posted by Cyborg Snake:

I was told I was carried and I played horribly.

who told you that? Just ignore them lol

This. Those of us who've been with the Souls games for a long time tend to push ourselves with additional challenges, because the basic setup of the games hasn't changed significantly since Demon's in 09, but that doesn't mean that the "vet way" is the *right* or *only* way.

If you're new, your play is unlikely to be perfect out of the gate, and that's normal.

...some folks forget their own learning experiences, apparently believing their present familiarity with the Souls setup was always present as a natural consequence of their superiority.

You beat Margit, and it was legit. Summoning help is a mechanic included with the game, indicating it is intended to be used. Don't sweat what a few elitist dingleberries desperately defending the single achievement they have to their names say about how you play; they have to wake up as themselves every day, and I can't think of many worse fates.

If you beat a boss, or eventually the game, whether you had cooperators or not, you beat the game, and it was legit.

Now go have fun, and stomp some mud holes into some demigods.

[echo_ML]

Sl1 +0 weapons ng+7 blindfolded whilst holding your breath and reading out your bank statement in cantonese while being hunted down by 3 invaders and playing on an eight year old Ps4

[Burns]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

Originally posted by dizzy ladybug:

who told you that? Just ignore them lol

This. Those of us who've been with the Souls games for a long time tend to push ourselves with additional challenges, because the basic setup of the games hasn't changed significantly since Demon's in 09, but that doesn't mean that the "vet way" is the *right* or *only* way.

If you're new, your play is unlikely to be perfect out of the gate, and that's normal.

...some folks forget their own learning experiences, apparently believing their present familiarity with the Souls setup was always present as a natural consequence of their superiority.

You beat Margit, and it was legit. Summoning help is a mechanic included with the game, indicating it is intended to be used. Don't sweat what a few elitist dingleberries desperately defending the single achievement they have to their names say about how you play; they have to wake up as themselves every day, and I can't think of many worse fates.

If you beat a boss, or eventually the game, whether you had cooperators or not, you beat the game, and it was legit.

Now go have fun, and stomp some mud holes into some demigods.

Every 'veterean' started from zero

[Sirius]

Originally posted by Cyborg Snake:

What's the legit way of defeating a boss?

Step 1: Use the tools the game gives you
Step 2: Disregard people who confuse being a "real gamer" with "having a personality"
Step 3: ...
Step 4: Profit.