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DELAMAIN Mar 23, 2024 @ 7:34am
STR/INT builds
talk about Guts Sword.
is it realy useless to make magic/frost infusion for it?
ask nec i started as prisoner and dont realy want to make new str baseed character.

scaling seems realy bad.
lets say i put gravity ash wave of darkness for pvp and put heavy scaling = A in str. but ash still scales with wisdom rignt?
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Mikamus Mar 23, 2024 @ 7:37am 
Reject ugly guts sword. Embrace royal Greatsword supremacy.
SoundsOfNight Mar 23, 2024 @ 7:53am 
Ruins, Beast Jaw, or Royal.

I'm also using a number of Heavy Str weapons and buffing - Rotten Greataxe, Brick Hammer, Great Stars, etc
Imperator Ricardo Mar 23, 2024 @ 7:53am 
The Colossal Greatsword is overall powerful, no matter the Infusion.

Since you specifically asked about Waves of Darkness on a Heavy Infusion, that will not do a lot of damage, but it will do decent area denial, and the stagger will always remain.
Waves of Darkness appears to scale exclusively with Int from my personal experience, or atleast it scales vastly more with Int than it does Strength.

If the low scaling is bothersome, consider using a Magic/Cold infused Zweihander, or the Royal Greatsword.
Both are amazing and powerful weapons, and particularily the Zweihander has vastly more utility than the Colossal Greatsword thanks to its thrusting R2 attack and much lighter weight.
If you decide to use a more Strength-leaning build, consider using the Ruins Greatsword, it is a very fun and powerful weapon aswell, although it essentially is just a Strength weapon that essentially ignores Int outside of the required 16.
DELAMAIN Mar 23, 2024 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by Imperator Ricardo:
The Colossal Greatsword is overall powerful, no matter the Infusion.

Since you specifically asked about Waves of Darkness on a Heavy Infusion, that will not do a lot of damage, but it will do decent area denial, and the stagger will always remain.
Waves of Darkness appears to scale exclusively with Int from my personal experience, or atleast it scales vastly more with Int than it does Strength.

If the low scaling is bothersome, consider using a Magic/Cold infused Zweihander, or the Royal Greatsword.
Both are amazing and powerful weapons, and particularily the Zweihander has vastly more utility than the Colossal Greatsword thanks to its thrusting R2 attack and much lighter weight.
If you decide to use a more Strength-leaning build, consider using the Ruins Greatsword, it is a very fun and powerful weapon aswell, although it essentially is just a Strength weapon that essentially ignores Int outside of the required 16.
so that means i can go full int with int/frost waves infusion basicaly
DELAMAIN Mar 23, 2024 @ 8:06am 
ruin looks like garbage
Imperator Ricardo Mar 23, 2024 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by DELAMAIN:
so that means i can go full int with int/frost waves infusion basicaly

Essentially, yes. Particularily with a Frost infusion you can take advantage of Frostbite buildup on your attacks aswell, providing extra burst damage.




Originally posted by DELAMAIN:
ruin looks like garbage

As i said, the Ruins Greatsword is essentially just a pure Strength weapon with a low Int requirement. Very good base damage and scaling, but only if you lean into Strength more than Int.
DELAMAIN Mar 23, 2024 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Imperator Ricardo:
Originally posted by DELAMAIN:
so that means i can go full int with int/frost waves infusion basicaly

Essentially, yes. Particularily with a Frost infusion you can take advantage of Frostbite buildup on your attacks aswell, providing extra burst damage.




Originally posted by DELAMAIN:
ruin looks like garbage

As i said, the Ruins Greatsword is essentially just a pure Strength weapon with a low Int requirement. Very good base damage and scaling, but only if you lean into Strength more than Int.
that was main question. Guts sword with INT/FROST infusion is B str D int D dex
and i need still to invest more in Int for ash scaling despite B scaling on str
DELAMAIN Mar 23, 2024 @ 8:51am 
bec some ashes scale not from stat but from weapon AR
DELAMAIN Mar 23, 2024 @ 8:56am 
looks like for this ASH zwei is way to go.
sad bec i liked Guts modeL)
DELAMAIN Mar 23, 2024 @ 8:58am 
now the question is Zwei with frost or just INT))
Toast Mar 23, 2024 @ 9:04am 
Guts sword is king, only weapon I use. Works well with frost, and bleed.
DELAMAIN Mar 23, 2024 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by Toast:
Guts sword is king, only weapon I use. Works well with frost, and bleed.
looks like Guts is good only in pure str with ashes scaling from ar
Imperator Ricardo Mar 23, 2024 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by DELAMAIN:
now the question is Zwei with frost or just INT))
Personally, i always use Frost when handling weapons for Int builds. But that is just my preference.
If you prefer direct damage, use Magic infusion. If you like added status effects, use Frost.
Both work just fine in any case, and you cannot go wrong here.
Fistraiser Mar 23, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
personally i love helphens steeple for str/int build.its got a really good ash of war that buffs the weapon and adds magic and frost damage.
The buff makes the weapon look awesome not to mention the weapon itself is one of the best looking greatswords in the game.
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Date Posted: Mar 23, 2024 @ 7:34am
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